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    Arrow Thoughts on the starters after tonight

    * Quit turning the damn ball over, that killed us last year and we had 2 tonight in the first half by the starters.

    * Ben needs to quit forcing the issue. He was 13-25 247 yds tonight so he had a good half stat wise and made some good plays, good reads, keep plays alive, etc but also forced the issue way too many times and on the first series just flat out should have taken the sack instead of throwing up that lame duck. When he takes what the D gives him, he's fine but he gets antsy still.

    *Fast Willie needs to hold onto the damn ball ! I know it's preseason and all but still, the dude fumbled right on the goal line. He didn't look real good tonight over all other than the TD run and a couple nice gains.

    *OL is just starting to play together so they need time but at least they got a half to work together.

    * Willie Reid needs to get his head out of his ***. If this kid makes the team it needs to be as a WR because Tomlin needs to keep him off the return team. He fumbled again tonight and just looks completely confused out there trying to return kicks just like he has all preseason. He hasn't shown me anything this year yet. I'd sooner let Wilson back there. I don't want Holmes returning punts, he's a full time starter now and we need to get him all the experience we can there and not wear him out on returns or risk injury right now. I know ARE did double duty for us but Holmes needs to concentrate on WR at this point IMO.

    * Kreider needs to stay, I think he cemented his roster spot tonight with solid blocking and catching the pass from Ben.

    * Defense looked decent overall. They let some plays go here and there especially in the running game but overall Im ok with where they are at. Anthony Smith had a wicked hit at the goal line but Ryan Clark was bringing the wood too. Ike Taylor was all over the field and seems like he's ready to go. The pass rush got a few sacks in and was in the backfield on many occasions against the first team.

    * The DB's need to quit giving such a damn cushion. I hate seeing them give 5-10 yds almost every time. It's 3rd and 3 and we're giving them 5 yds already. These guys can play bump and run so let them do it more often.

    * Hines and Santonio are going to be beastly for us, both of them were playing well. Heath is money for us, the dude is just awesome. On that play in the first quarter he had like 2 guys just bounce off of him while he was catching the ball and running towards the goal line.

    Overall the starters have the potential but they need to tighten things up. Get rid of the turnovers first and foremost or we're toast, plain and simple. The first quarter we played like crap with the 2 turnovers and the poor field position but in the 2nd half they played much better and got some good drives together and finished the deal with points.

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    I agree with you on so many things in that post.......The INT doesn't bug me as much for Ben.....The one throw that bugs me is when he missed Ward for a TD...If he would have just threw to Hine's back shoulder then it would have been six......You have to make that throw in my mind.....I want Ben to take the next step...He needs to start making those kind of throws and just look crisper in his drop backs period.....

    I think the Oline looks like timid little bitches out there (especially Faneca)...Will they hit or block someone?lol

    Willie Reid has looked retarded all pre-season returning kicks...lol

    The defense had a solid night when you think about the ****** field position they were put in with turnovers and bad punting...But still to many break downs tonight....

    I was just hoping for a more crisp performance before the season tonight...The starters did some good things but overall a sloppy performance in my mind....

    But hey in 2005 the starting offense looked like **** the entire pre-season....We only won the Super Bowl that year....So no time to worry...

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    ben had a ben maddox moment in the first but overall i like what he did, he was making nice safe throws to his running backs, got heath involved, he needs to get on the same page with his wrs a little better cause he was throwing behind them.......but i like what i saw overall

    willie parker is still just a fast back, he isn't a up the gut runner and that's gonna hurt us cause we have two backs that are soft........willie fumbled a couple of times last year in the redzone and then tonight, this is why he won't get goal line tds, cause it's almost like he is afraid of contact

    our line sucked at times but at least ben wasn't on his *** a lot

    our defense overall did good, got off the field only allowed 3 points and got some nice pressure on mcnabb.........we need to stop giving so much cusion though, i know it's the scheme of the defense but it pisses me off lol

    willie reid is really letting me down, he is thinking way to much, he needs to relax and just play the game, he's trying to hard not to **** up

    d-sep ****ed up once but he's a rookie and at least it's in the preseason, let him get it out of his system lol
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    I don't know I thought Ben didn't look as good as some of you claim....He could have had 2-3 picks tonight instead of that one....Plus missed Ward for a TD in the endzone....since he threw it behind him.....

    I also thought the pass protection stunk....But hey that might be season long problem...So Ben and Ariens must adjust.....Have Ben taking shorter drop backs and hit quick slants to the WRs or Heath to beat the blitz....

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    Najeh looked solid tonight, I was impressed with his catching and running. He's had a better preseason overall than Willie. Yeah Willie was hurt at first and he is the starter and all but damn he just isn't showing that toughness up the middle to break tackles like he says he can do. Once the OL shapes up that will help but we've got to find somebody who finish the job on the goal line and in those short yardage situations where we just gotta have the play on a consistent basis. If that's Willie then fine, but show it already dude.

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    The first thing I would like to point out is that, even though it wasn't the most sharp of performances we are starting to see just how talented Ben is (as if we didn't know that) Out of 13 completions he had 247 yards, damn!! he still looks like he needs to get on the same page as his wideouts but I am impressed overall this preseason. I loved how they said that Tomlin described him as a freak Hines Ward also looked like the bad *** we all know he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerSteve View Post
    The first thing I would like to point out is that, even though it wasn't the most sharp of performances we are starting to see just how talented Ben is (as if we didn't know that) Out of 13 completions he had 247 yards, damn!! he still looks like he needs to get on the same page as his wideouts but I am impressed overall this preseason. I loved how they said that Tomlin described him as a freak Hines Ward also looked like the bad *** we all know he is.
    Ok thats the frustrating part about Ben....He still seems to just get by on his talent....Yes he is very talented I agree....But he still lacks in some of the basic fundamentals that make QBs like Brady and Manning great....His drop backs are too long at times....Must improve that foot work Ben and get rid of the ball quicker especially if the Oline is going to suck *** again...Plus stop throwing behind your WRs at times....He also still made some questionable decisions out there as well.

    I'm still a huge Ben fan really don't want to be to hard on the guy...But I think he has the potential to be special and I just want to see him reach that potential.......

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    Ben needs to make better decisions with the ball. That first interception, he shoulda ate it. Overall it was a decent performance by the starters. Philly didn't really move the ball well on our starters. Our offense looks like it will be explosive and capable of putting up quick scores and big numbers. Don't think we are still one of those teams that can't play well from behind. I see this new offense being very capable of making some late game comebacks. Then we have Willie, who is always just one missed or broken tackle away from a touchdown. No doubt we are a top ten team, can we be a top 5? We will see.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black@Gold Forever32 View Post
    Ok thats the frustrating part about Ben....He still seems to just get by on his talent....Yes he is very talented I agree....But he still lacks in some of the basic fundamentals that make QBs like Brady and Manning great....His drop backs are too long at times....Must improve that foot work Ben and get rid of the ball quicker especially if the Oline is going to suck *** again...Plus stop throwing behind your WRs at times....He also still made some questionable decisions out there as well.

    I'm still a huge Ben fan really don't want to be to hard on the guy...But I think he has the potential to be special and I just want to see him reach that potential.......
    Yeah I agree, I wasn't to concerned about him getting rid of the ball quickly, he seemed to do okay with that to me, I do agree that he needs to be quicker to set up and improve on his drop backs though. He did impress me with his poise tonight though, except for his interception which could have been avoided if he had just taken the sack(He also had the ball tipped out of his hand when he through, otherwise Willie may have had a chance at it). Also from what I've heard he has been working very hard this off-season and I think it will be a break out year. He should put up monster yardage if hes given the oppurtinity to through more, I dont know the exact number but his yards per completion have to be huge. His completion percentage was just over 50% tonight but I expect that to improve.

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    no one speak of d-sep, i apologize on his behalf. it was his first time punting in the endzone.....and he was tryng to put it in the other endzone....its ok, i know i forgive him

    william gay is the most clutch player ever

    woodley is always on the field

    santonio is a monster

    washington......ive always been supporting him and he shined tonight with his 3 electrifying catches.......haters

    ben and batch are machines

    i hate kevan barlow

    willie was awesome, that fumble had me hurtin though

    i hate cedric wilson

    willie reid- wtf?

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