"Give me a 6 pack, half hour of rest and lets go play them again....We can beat them."
--Jack Lambert
"They say that when you're the champs, everybody will try to beat you. Well, I'm glad we're the champs, so bring 'em on, bring 'em all on. If we die, we ain't gonna die running. It's gonna be a fight."
--Joe Greene
So you couldn't muster up a response to something that completely debunks your theory, then...correct?Originally Posted by BlackGold4vr
Now go ahead, try to make one last attempt at proving me wrong by personally attacking me (while ignoring every fact I've provided that proves you wrong).
Sorry, the whole "sweep my misconceptions under the rug by just ignoring it" isn't going to be successful. Or you can just tell us that Clark was starting from 2001-2003, it's up to you.
I can't remember if Champ ever made it on "Jacked Up" but if he did that wouldv'e been 1 more time than Clark has!
If you weren't so busy being a closet Bronco fan (because you have obviously watched all their games to make a statement that Champ can't deliver a "big hit") then maybe you would see what the rest of us do. Haggans is an average player at best!
Last edited by BlackGold4vr; 03-28-2007 at 06:03 PM.
Right, because I'd have to be a closet Broncos fan to know that Champ is not the kind of player that lays big hits, right?I can't remember if Champ ever made it on "Jacked Up" but if he did that wouldv'e been 1 more time than Clark has!
If you weren't so busy being a closet Bronco fan (because you have obviously watched all their games to make a statement that Champ can't deliver a "big hit") then maybe you would see what the rest of us do. Haggans is an average player at best!
Haggans is just an average player, yet he's put up as good of stats as the "great" Joey Porter since 2004 (when he was actually the starter). Do you understand how ridiculous you sound. I don't think Clark is some sort of superstar, but don't sit here and tell me how much we're going to miss Joey then turn around and say we don't need Haggans. Perhaps you should be watching more Steelers games if you can't see what Clark brings to the table. Consistency is much more important for a defensive player than making it on Jacked Up once every blue moon...
I never mentioned Porter, but you did. But since you did bring him up, you admitted yourself that for the last 3 years Haggans was almost as good as Porter. We just canned Porter, so that could be a good indicator for where Clark is headed. I will send you some flowers when he's cut or traded!Right, because I'd have to be a closet Broncos fan to know that Champ is not the kind of player that lays big hits, right?
Haggans is just an average player, yet he's put up as good of stats as the "great" Joey Porter since 2004 (when he was actually the starter). Do you understand how ridiculous you sound. I don't think Clark is some sort of superstar, but don't sit here and tell me how much we're going to miss Joey then turn around and say we don't need Haggans. Perhaps you should be watching more Steelers games if you can't see what Clark brings to the table. Consistency is much more important for a defensive player than making it on Jacked Up once every blue moon...
The topic here isn't Porter, but I never said that Clark was almost as good as Porter, I said that he put up almost as many sacks. He put up more tackles and forced fumbles than Joey did, and showed a lot more consistency. Not to mention the fact that Haggans is being payed a considerable less amount than Joey wanted, but if he were to be cut, I wouldn't mind as long was we had a comparable replacement (just as we did when Joey was cut).
But that's neither here nor there. The topic of this discussion, which you've dodged the past three times you posted in this thread, is that defensive players have to appear on Jacked Up in order to be considered valuable.
Any other insight for us? Do offensive players have to score 80 yard touchdowns at least once a game in order to be considered successful?
Ok here is my two pence worth of what the steelers need to do
It's not rocket science but when we lead the league in time of possesion we had a 15-1 regualr season, based on the grind it out running game. As much as i like parker, he aint a grind it out back. Get the ball wear the dee down, get up early, and let the dee do it's thing.
If your behind, get Willie in the game, if you up Davenport in the game.
Even better play a pro set with BOTH Davenport and Parker in the backfield.
Basically eat the clock up makes the opposing teams rush which lets our dee lick their chops pin their ears back and blitz!
I like this theory.
Please show me where I said a player must appear on "Jacked Up" in order to be considered valuable. I don't want your twisted little interpretation of what I said, you show me the quote where I said that. You always accuse people of putting words in your mouth, sounds like a bit of hypocrasy there.
This is what I said, which isn't even remotely the same as what you say I said. You just like to read into things and make them say what you want them too. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?If Haggans had been delivering the kind of "jacked-up" hits that fans like to see we would all be more excited about his presence on the field!
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