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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday133 View Post
    I have no idea how developing real estate kicks the little guy out. Sounds like you're just pissed because tailgating isn't going to be the same.

    Oh, I agree, I am pissed because tailgating isn't going to be the same. Believe me, I am not alone. Everything that they are putting in down there, I guarantee they already have down there not far away. (Minus the casino of course) I have no problem with them developing the area, it's the area that they plan on developing is the thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stlrs4Life View Post
    Oh, I agree, I am pissed because tailgating isn't going to be the same. Believe me, I am not alone. Everything that they are putting in down there, I guarantee they already have down there not far away. (Minus the casino of course) I have no problem with them developing the area, it's the area that they plan on developing is the thing.
    What would you prefer to see developed in the area instead?

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    I don't believe anyone wants to see Pittsburgh or any other city to not be developed to its' fullest potential. As this is a direct sampling of our economy. In this case, the only thing I have against this particular expansion is where they are planning to develop, in an already very narrow area for parking. Pittsburgh & most of the hotel, motel facilities go out of their way to transport fans from Point A to the stadium for the games, however, that is not at all what Dom and I are discussing. We, and a few thousand other Steeler fans are very concerned that tailgating as we know it, will be a definite thing of the past and tailgating is a primary portion of the Steeler game experience.

    We, Joe 6 packs, who supported the Steelers when they were nothing at all, are being taken out of the equation and only people with money will be able to do what we have always done and we will be handed the bill for it. This is just another case of the little people paying for the good times of the money people and any honest taxpayer will certainly agree. Again, Friday, noone is questioning development. It is where the development is being done for a mere 1200 very rich people. And more than likely it will fail, then who pays for putting things back the way they were?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday133 View Post
    What would you prefer to see developed in the area instead?

    Like I said, they can develope all they want on the other side from Heinz field, around the area where the Casino is going to be. And on the other side of PNC already has shops, and restaraunts. Like I said, when every I go to that area, I'm going to watch a game, whether it's the Pirates, or the Steelers. If I want the other stuff, I can go to other parts of town for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelerlyn View Post
    I don't believe anyone wants to see Pittsburgh or any other city to not be developed to its' fullest potential. As this is a direct sampling of our economy. In this case, the only thing I have against this particular expansion is where they are planning to develop, in an already very narrow area for parking. Pittsburgh & most of the hotel, motel facilities go out of their way to transport fans from Point A to the stadium for the games, however, that is not at all what Dom and I are discussing. We, and a few thousand other Steeler fans are very concerned that tailgating as we know it, will be a definite thing of the past and tailgating is a primary portion of the Steeler game experience.

    We, Joe 6 packs, who supported the Steelers when they were nothing at all, are being taken out of the equation and only people with money will be able to do what we have always done and we will be handed the bill for it. This is just another case of the little people paying for the good times of the money people and any honest taxpayer will certainly agree. Again, Friday, noone is questioning development. It is where the development is being done for a mere 1200 very rich people. And more than likely it will fail, then who pays for putting things back the way they were?

    Excellent point, and post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelerlyn View Post
    I don't believe anyone wants to see Pittsburgh or any other city to not be developed to its' fullest potential. As this is a direct sampling of our economy. In this case, the only thing I have against this particular expansion is where they are planning to develop, in an already very narrow area for parking. Pittsburgh & most of the hotel, motel facilities go out of their way to transport fans from Point A to the stadium for the games, however, that is not at all what Dom and I are discussing. We, and a few thousand other Steeler fans are very concerned that tailgating as we know it, will be a definite thing of the past and tailgating is a primary portion of the Steeler game experience.

    We, Joe 6 packs, who supported the Steelers when they were nothing at all, are being taken out of the equation and only people with money will be able to do what we have always done and we will be handed the bill for it. This is just another case of the little people paying for the good times of the money people and any honest taxpayer will certainly agree. Again, Friday, no one is questioning development. It is where the development is being done for a mere 1200 very rich people. And more than likely it will fail, then who pays for putting things back the way they were?

    I agree tailgating as we know it is going to be a thing of the past. However, when the stadiums were built, the local politicians let it be known they planned to develop the area between the stadiums, both teams were going to be the 'master developers'. They would decide what kind of development was going to happen. How could you say the development is being done for 1200 very rich people? And why will it fail? That to me sounds like sour grapes. You live in Michigan and come here once maybe twice a year, meanwhile there several hundred thousand people here that would love something else to do. Frankly there is a lot more to the city than the Steelers and those that tailgate 10 times a year. If you don't like it, simply don't go then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stlrs4Life View Post
    Like I said, they can develope all they want on the other side from Heinz field, around the area where the Casino is going to be. And on the other side of PNC already has shops, and restaraunts. Like I said, when every I go to that area, I'm going to watch a game, whether it's the Pirates, or the Steelers. If I want the other stuff, I can go to other parts of town for it.
    Think about how valuable that land is between the stadiums. Anyone in their right mind knows they are worth more with developments on them than vacant parking lots.

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    You know what would have been good for the tailgater's? If the Steelers would have built their new stadium in Washington County, Butler County, Monroeville, or maybe out by the airport somewhere. That way they could have built a stadium and surrounded it by acres of concrete so you guys could still have your tailgates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlacknGold Bleeder View Post
    Obviously you don't like tailgating. To a helluva alot of people it's a special part of the game day tradition.IMHO that ampitheater and complex isn't really necessary, are you forgetting the casino that's gonna be 1/4 mile away?? I'm betting that there will be a room in there that will have that size room. The parking lots over there are needed for all this development. More shops and less parking will make that area like Oakland, around Pitt if you know the area. Some where to go and NO parking !!
    No, I do like tailgating. Maybe you guys should be mad a d Dan Rooney, after all the amphitheater is his idea and he's been wanting to build one for sometime.

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    BTW, I live in Oakland.

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