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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    A lot of people view him as a finesse rusher from the 5 tech position (I disagree) but he also looks to be a purely 5 tech player, i dont really see another position for him.
    agreed on both. and that will limit his draft stock, despite his talent. A team with both the right scheme, and the specific need. Of course the Steelers fit that description... which other teams do?

    I think draft tek is spot on

    if you've never played with their draft simulator... i recommend it. You can set all the teams needs, values, etc based on your opinions... it's quite involved

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    I really hope Cleveland doesn't get Manziel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    I really hope Cleveland doesn't get Manziel...
    I really hope they don't get Blake Bortles with their first #1 and Carlos Hyde with their second #1.

    The stains are loaded with draft picks.
    Last edited by ChucktownSteeler; 01-19-2014 at 04:39 PM. Reason: Fix typo

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    I really hope the Browns trade away their draft to get Johnny Football...Manziel is going to be hot garbage......Doug Flutie with Ryan Leaf type attitude.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black@Gold Forever32 View Post
    I really hope the Browns trade away their draft to get Johnny Football...Manziel is going to be hot garbage......Doug Flutie with Ryan Leaf type attitude.......
    The "attitude" comparison is pretty silly.

    comparisons that highlight a generic trait (size) or a media myth (attitude), and are rooted in almost nothing relevant should be left on the curb.

    Making a prediction of failure (hot garbage) or success (franchise QB), are pointless at this stage of the game. The reality is that Manziel is unlike any QB we've seen, he has limitless potential via innate talent, and his football IQ is off the charts... will his size hold him back? will his style of play be the end of him? will his immaturity at 20 yrs old follow him into adult hood? no one can say... but to write him off as some Ryan Leaf head case is nothing more than the regurgitation of a narrative you chose to buy into
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    The "attitude" comparison is pretty silly.
    Could be an exaggeration on my part but then again it might not be....Johnny Manziel NFL story hasn't been written yet.....We will find out.....I wouldn't be surprised if Manziel is a bust and if attitude would be the reason why......

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    Yes I know comparing him to Ryan Leaf is a bit extreme but hey that is part of sports debate.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    I really hope Cleveland doesn't get Manziel...
    Agreed. Manziel to go along with Gordon, Jordan Cameron, and whoever they could potentially take with their second 1st would be dangerous. Their D is tough, get them a QB who can make plays like he can and they could have something.

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    Ouch, looks like Aaron Colvin tore his knee up at senior bowl practice

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChucktownSteeler View Post
    I really hope they don't get Blake Bortles with their first #1 and Carlos Hyde with their second #1.

    The stains are loaded with draft picks.
    i was thinking #1 Watkins, #1 Bortles, #2 Hyde

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