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    Are they back in OL denial?

    The team's refusal to address the O line is what got us in this mess to begin with. But here we are again, and they did absolutely nothing to address the OL. They don't need to? Well, who here is confident that a quality LT is on this team? Who is it? Gilbert? Are you kidding? Adams? I don't think so. There isn't a legit LT on this roster. And they did nothing to get one in here - not even a mid- or late-round pick. I believe they are in O line denial once again, just like they were in Tomlin's first few years. I pray to God Starks can still be signed. And this draft was stacked with O linemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice cream glove View Post
    The team's refusal to address the O line is what got us in this mess to begin with. But here we are again, and they did absolutely nothing to address the OL. They don't need to? Well, who here is confident that a quality LT is on this team? Who is it? Gilbert? Are you kidding? Adams? I don't think so. There isn't a legit LT on this roster. And they did nothing to get one in here - not even a mid- or late-round pick. I believe they are in O line denial once again, just like they were in Tomlin's first few years. I pray to God Starks can still be signed. And this draft was stacked with O linemen.
    Mike Adams is very much build as a LT and could easily play there. Gilbert could play LT as well. Neither are prototypical RTs, so I don't see that as a problem.

    As for the OL denial, I'm not sure what you are on about. We've invested 2 first rounders, and 2 second rounders in recent years, plus a couple of late round picks. We have invested PLENTY in the o-line. All they need to do is stay healthy, and we have a very very good o-line. If they can't, well that sucks, but you cannot draft your way out of injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensK View Post
    Mike Adams is very much build as a LT and could easily play there. Gilbert could play LT as well. Neither are prototypical RTs, so I don't see that as a problem.

    As for the OL denial, I'm not sure what you are on about. We've invested 2 first rounders, and 2 second rounders in recent years, plus a couple of late round picks. We have invested PLENTY in the o-line. All they need to do is stay healthy, and we have a very very good o-line. If they can't, well that sucks, but you cannot draft your way out of injuries.
    You can't _JUST_ invest draft picks, shrug your shoulders and call it a day. You have to ensure you have a quality line, not just hope that you do. If Gilbert and Adams are busts (haven't looked too good so far) then you have to face that as a team and react and find a legit LT. They need to do more than just hope they work out. And they need to figure out why they are having so many injuries. I got word that they don't do much free weight lifting and I think that is related. SF does tons of free weight work, and they have every single linemen make every single game last year. The Steelers are very weak on their free weight lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensK View Post
    Mike Adams is very much build as a LT and could easily play there. Gilbert could play LT as well. Neither are prototypical RTs, so I don't see that as a problem.
    Yes, he is built like one just fine, but he has always underachieved for his physical measurables. Will that trend continue? If it does, we are in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice cream glove View Post
    Yes, he is built like one just fine, but he has always underachieved for his physical measurables. Will that trend continue? If it does, we are in trouble.
    That just not true at all... He had a little bit of trouble in pass-protection the first couple of games, but that is hardly underachieving. That is just him being a rookie who was thrown in way to early due to injuries. He MAULED in the run game, and he did fairly well in pass-protection before his injury. That is not underachieving. As a matter of fact, the Steelers had by far the best running game all season when Adams played guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensK View Post
    That just not true at all... He had a little bit of trouble in pass-protection the first couple of games, but that is hardly underachieving. That is just him being a rookie who was thrown in way to early due to injuries. He MAULED in the run game, and he did fairly well in pass-protection before his injury. That is not underachieving. As a matter of fact, the Steelers had by far the best running game all season when Adams played guard.
    But he wasn't drafted to play OG. And he wasn't just bad a "couple" of times in pass protecting; he was a turnstile. Guys were just blowing by him. IF the DE gets right to Ben immediately, we have no hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice cream glove View Post
    But he wasn't drafted to play OG. And he wasn't just bad a "couple" of times in pass protecting; he was a turnstile. Guys were just blowing by him. IF the DE gets right to Ben immediately, we have no hope.
    This right here just display your utter ignorance as to how this game works. First of all, what has him not being a guard to do with anything whatsoever? If you want to run the ball well, you better have some tackles who can play the run. Its not like you ONLY run the ball between the center and guards. Thats just... stupid. Also, that does not mean that the tackles should not be able to be a mauler... If your tackles cannot go down the field a block, let alone hold your ground in run-protection its just useless. Adams was by far our best tackle doing that, and arguably almost as good as Pouncey. Yes, he had trouble the first couple of games in pass-protection ,but go back and watch the tape... He improved immensely over the last few games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensK View Post
    That just not true at all... He had a little bit of trouble in pass-protection the first couple of games, but that is hardly underachieving. That is just him being a rookie who was thrown in way to early due to injuries. He MAULED in the run game, and he did fairly well in pass-protection before his injury. That is not underachieving. As a matter of fact, the Steelers had by far the best running game all season when Adams played guard.
    what game did adams play guard ? What game did adams maul and do well in the run game. I have NFL.com gamepass so I can go watch any game. I'm curious to know which games you had in mind so I can see adams play well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzburghpete View Post
    what game did adams play guard ? What game did adams maul and do well in the run game. I have NFL.com gamepass so I can go watch any game. I'm curious to know which games you had in mind so I can see adams play well.
    Adams did not play guard. He was strictly playing RT the time he was. I mentioned the mauling, because it seemed to be the perception that "mauling" is strictly a guard thing, which is not true. Adams did do very well in the running game. As for the games, I don't recall the exact ones on top of my head, but I'll check tomorrow.
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    It's obvious by the way they drafted that they are confident in Adams or Gilbert taking care of the LT position. So just relax and let them sort it out. The O-line looks fine and they will add a veteran for additional depth. No worries.

    Biggest thing we need to be concerned about when it comes to the O-line is keeping the O-linemen healthy.
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