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    It turns out...

    ... that Xavier Rhodes is the best defensive player in this year's draft
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    No he isnt, best corner probably...i would have agreed with that for years now, but ive always had a little crush on rhodes

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    No he isnt, best corner probably...i would have agreed with that for years now, but ive always had a little crush on rhodes
    I spent last week, reviewing the defensive players in the top 32 on my last board. Xavier Rhodes is the best defensive prospect in the draft. He is the best cover corner to come out since Revis or Haden. I compared his tape to Claiborne and he blows it away.. Rhodes is now #2 on my board behind Joekel. (I updated my top 100 thread)

    These are the guys I re-watched (most) and there new positions on the board (i'm doing offense this week) :
    2 Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St
    3 Shariff Floyd DT Florida
    4 Dee Milliner CB Alabama
    5 Dion Jordan DE/OLB Oregon
    9 Bjoern Werner DE Florida St
    11 Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
    12 Barkevious Mingo DE/OLB LSU
    13 Ezekial Ansah DE/OLB BYU
    15 Kawann Short DT Purdue - did not re-watch
    16 Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia
    17 Desmond Trufant CB Washington St
    20 Star Lotulelei DT Utah - did not re-watch
    24 Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio St
    25 Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
    26 Datone Jones DE UCLA
    29 Robert Alford CB Southeastern Louisiana - only re-watched combine
    30 Manti Teo LB Notre Dame
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    There no way in hell revis and haden were the best prospects to use as a jumping off point, thats classic 20/20 hindsight...they were middle of the pack guys even if they were the top corner their year (revis wasnt) and are the far superior players today. Theres like 8 CBs over the last few years that i would have rated SIGNIFICANTLY higher than i had revis, haden, rhodes, and milliner

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    Yeah that draft class was DB heavy with Berry being the clear cut best available player, maybe of the whole draft. 5-6 dbs went in the first that year. Revis and Hall were pretty evenly hyped in their draft class as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    There no way in hell revis and haden were the best prospects to use as a jumping off point, thats classic 20/20 hindsight...they were middle of the pack guys even if they were the top corner their year (revis wasnt) and are the far superior players today. Theres like 8 CBs over the last few years that i would have rated SIGNIFICANTLY higher than i had revis, haden, rhodes, and milliner
    If the Steelers.com board still existed, you would see that I had Joe Haden ranked #2 that year, (behind Bradford) and
    I also spent a month ranting about how we needed to trade our 2nd round pick to move into the top 10 to take Revis in his year. (of course, none of this can be verified and I realize this could be viewed as talking out of my ***... lol)

    I'm a pretty good judge of CB talent.
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    I just look at the recent history of the Steelers drafting CB's in the first... and there isnt any! Chad Scott was the last and I think there is good reason for that. Revis was a Pittsburgh kid who I got to see play every game at Pitt. So I was obviously REALLY high on the steelers drafting him. I knew he could start game 1 and back then he was a hell of a return man! Other than that, there hasnt been many corners I've wanted in the first round!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    If the Steelers.com board still existed, you would see that I had Joe Haden ranked #2 that year, (behind Bradford) and
    I also spent a month ranting about how we needed to trade our 2nd round pick to move into the top 10 to take Revis in his year. (of course, none of this can be verified and I realize this could be viewed as talking out of my ***... lol)

    I'm a pretty good judge of CB talent.
    you had haden #2 over suh and berry? get out of here lol

    i admittedly hated revis, i hate revis and carriker so much that year as the steelers pick but he was #2 to me. I thought haden was #1 by default because of a painfully average CB class he came out of but hes exceeded what i thought he was.

    How I'd rank them from 2003-Now as prospects:


    1. Patrick Peterson
    2. Antonio Cromartie (the dude had it all, if not for his knee injury he would have been among the top picks)
    3. Deangelo Hall
    4. Pacman Jones
    5. Terrence Newman
    6. Morris Claiborne
    7. Leodis Mckelvin (again, this is ignoring the fact that he actually sucks)
    8. Marcus Trufant
    9. Janoris Jenkins (had him slightly below Claiborne...but obviously where he was going was a crap shoot, but above haden)
    10. Leon Hall
    11. Antrelle Rolle
    12. Darrelle Revis
    13. Dee Milliner
    14. Joe Haden
    15. Xavier Rhodes
    16. Dunta Robinson
    17. Carlos Rogers
    18. Malcolm Jenkins
    19. Stephen Gilmore
    20. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

    something like that.

    Honestly i had earl thomas ranked higher as a CB than haden that year

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    Yeah Berry and Thomas i thought would make better CB's than Haden. I liked Patrick Robinson as a second better than Haden as a first. Parrish Cox was a guy i was REALLY high on in that draft too, lol... whoops!

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    i was stunned that robinson went in the first round.

    cox was very good, hes just a nut job.

    **** i left out talib, thats a tough list to make

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