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    21st in Run as percent of plays called
    12th in Pass as percent of plays called
    40.27 percent of plays called were RUN
    59.23 percent of plays called were PASS

    The PASS was a higher percent of our offense, than at any point in the last 10 years

    You know those handful of series that stand out in your mind, and frustrate you because we ran on 1st and 2nd down.... well, those handful of series do not constitute an entire offense. You are looking at a fraction of a fraction of a percent of play calls.

    The Steelers called more PASS plays as a percent of plays called than the Green Bay Packers, Denver Bronocos, New England Patriots, New York Giants.

    The only playoff team that threw the ball more often than the Steelers... was Atlanta

    If you prorate Roethlisbergers Pass Plays over the time he missed (575 attempts), he would've thrown the 8th most passes in the league... only a few behind Peyton (583), and a few ahead of Rodgers (552)

    You are wrong if you think any of the following :
    - The Steelers were a run first team in 2012
    - The Steelers emphasized the run over the pass in 2012
    - Haley turned the Steelers into a run first team

    This isn't a debate. You can either accept the facts, or bury your head back in your false belief.
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    What stats? How about Yards per attempt?

    Notice how that one doesn't get mentioned here?

    Why? You know why.

    You just don't have the balls to admit it.

    Turned Ben into Dilfer, and Mike Wallace into Courtney Hawkins.

    Haley proved just how much he doesn't value his QB when he left Plax in street clothes in Dallas and against Cincy so his boy Leonard Pope culd play on the field goal team.

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    PS......BEFORE Ben was injured he ranked 28th in the NFL in length per pass.

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    True, they are not. But are stats not the basis for every single decision made in the NFL? Or any other professional sport from recruitment, play calling, combine, rule changes, contract negations, and even gasp . . . . the Hall of Fame?

    I think I changed my mind, they are everything. Stats are empirical. They can be analyzed (and skewed) and used to make predictions. Baseball is the most offensive offender. Baseball statisticians are from another dimension.

    As for Philip Rivers, he is missing the most important stat of all regarding NFL QB's. So, yes, stats are important.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    Stats aren't everything.

    If they were Philip Rivers would be All Pro every year.

    You don't watch football. My guess is you read box scores.

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    Let it be recognized that when confronted with facts, Crash must deviate from one false belief to a different topic

    a lower YPA is a completely different argument

    2012 Steelers
    YPA 7.0
    2012 Super Bowl Champs
    YPA 7.1


    And while I would prefer a higher YPA (because YPA "generally" correlates to winning very well) I can also understand it in 2 different contexts
    1. We installed a brand new offense
    2. A lower YPA correlates directly to our very high 3rd down conversion %

    This offense needs to score more... and I expect it to in a 2nd season of experience in the system, and year of maturing and learning from our very young offensive line, and hopefully adding more skill to the RB position
    My Steeler Mock Draft
    1. Darqueze Dennard, CB Mich St
    2. Allen Robinson, WR Penn St
    3. Carl Bradford, OLB Arizona St
    4. Martavis Bryant, WR Clemson
    5a. Brent Urban, DE Virginia
    5b. Kevin Pierre-Louis, ILB Boston College
    6. Dontae Johnson, CB North Carolina St
    7. Zach Kerr, NT Delaware

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    Roethlisberger now 31

    All this typing of BS and stats, the fn guy was hurt and couldn't make the throws, he admitted to it! Get over it people!!
    "Happy Happy Happy"

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    Lovely. But if we are going to pay Ben to hand off and dump off to running backs all year? Trade him.

    Not worth the cost.

    You can pay Matt Cassell $3 mil a year to do the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LatrobePA View Post
    All this typing of BS and stats, the fn guy was hurt and couldn't make the throws, he admitted to it! Get over it people!!
    There lies the problem he has been hurt the last two season towards the later half. Why we didn't go far in the playoffs in 2011 and didn't make it in 12. I think we should go OL early one more time in this draft and then you got a good enough line to protect him the rest of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    Lovely. But if we are going to pay Ben to hand off and dump off to running backs all year? Trade him.

    Not worth the cost.

    You can pay Matt Cassell $3 mil a year to do the same thing.
    disproven
    try again
    My Steeler Mock Draft
    1. Darqueze Dennard, CB Mich St
    2. Allen Robinson, WR Penn St
    3. Carl Bradford, OLB Arizona St
    4. Martavis Bryant, WR Clemson
    5a. Brent Urban, DE Virginia
    5b. Kevin Pierre-Louis, ILB Boston College
    6. Dontae Johnson, CB North Carolina St
    7. Zach Kerr, NT Delaware

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    disproven
    try again
    Actually it was proven. The Ravens never went anywhere with their dink and dunk offense. In fact, their 2012 regular season offense was so successful they fired their OC.

    Then Jim Caldwell unleashed Joe Flacco and the deep ball when he took over.

    They won the Super Bowl, and Flacco's yards per attempt in this post season was a robust 9.05

    You lose.
    Last edited by Crash; 03-06-2013 at 06:30 PM.

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