Roethlisberger now 31

**Speeed** · 03-06-2013, 04:23 PM

I think we can all agree as he has matured, learned the nuance of being an NFL QB, and just plain improved his game through experience, and the opportunity for the franchise to build a team around him, he was injured more and more. Imagine if he had missed zero games in the last 5 years like the newly anointed Joe Flacco. His numbers would be even better than they are.

The fact is I bet in the last 3-4 years he has played injured (and coming back from injury requires acclamation) more than any other QB in the league. And we are not talking a bottom shelf QB here - he could have had a modest increase in stats. We can argue all we want, but he has had a unique history. Brees, Flacco, Rogers, and company play week after week year after year honing their game. Roethlisberger seems to be injured and returning from injuries (and legal issues, I don't want to debate those, but a factor non-the-less) constantly.

Sigh ...... I can only imagine his achievements had he been uninjured and out of court......

**Crash** · 03-06-2013, 04:33 PM

He'll never pull up big stats consistently when running the ball is mandated by ownership.

**Crash** · 03-06-2013, 04:36 PM

Stats aren't everything.

If they were Philip Rivers would be All Pro every year.

You don't watch football. My guess is you read box scores.

**NeilPatrickBanana** · 03-06-2013, 04:36 PM

and back to the conspiracy theory that's been disproven
(we ran the ball less under haley, than in any of the last 10 years)

**Crash** · 03-06-2013, 04:39 PM

And how many were at the end of halves or games?

The play-calling was a joke all year. Predictable, stale, repetitive.

The Chiefs knew what we were running BEFORE Ben even called the play.

**NeilPatrickBanana** · 03-06-2013, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Crash

He'll never pull up big stats consistently when running the ball is mandated by ownership.

on pace for 4400 yard/30+ TD season before injury

**Crash** · 03-06-2013, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana

on pace for 4400 yard/30+ TD season before injury

And as soon as we get a lead in the 4th? We run the ball.

It used to be pass early, run late.

Now it's run early, hope we get a lead, then when it doesn't happen it's Ben save us in the 4th damn you!

All because we are more worried about defense rankings than winning football games.

**NeilPatrickBanana** · 03-06-2013, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Crash

And as soon as we get a lead in the 4th? We run the ball.

It used to be pass early, run late.

Now it's run early, hope we get a lead, then when it doesn't happen it's Ben save us in the 4th damn you!

All because we are more worried about defense rankings than winning football games.

i can see why you don't like statistics... since none of them support your delusion

you've never put in the time to research your beliefs...

you're lazy

**Crash** · 03-06-2013, 04:51 PM

The play-calling does.

Turned the modern day Terry Bradshaw into Trent Dilfer.

The Rooney's have to be THRILLED that Wallace turned down 5 years $55 mil if it's true.

Because in this offense? Paying that to Mike Wallace is silly.

**NeilPatrickBanana** · 03-06-2013, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Crash

The play-calling does.

Turned the modern day Terry Bradshaw into Trent Dilfer.

The Rooney's have to be THRILLED that Wallace turned down 5 years $55 mil if it's true.

Because in this offense? Paying that to Mike Wallace is silly.

the playcalling argument has been refuted with stats, and you've brought nothing to the table to debate further
and here you go, back to your standard crazy person talking points. quick, get to the 50 yard line one...

you may be trolling... but i enjoy it