You're top 13 Qb's in the nfl

[Black@Gold Forever32]

Ben is not a top 5 QB period! Never has been and never will be. Anyone that has him between 6-10 has got my vote.

Ben isn't top five cause you say so......ok.....Here is the thing you're entitled to your opinion but the people who think Ben is are also entitled to their opinion......Like to see Ben in a dome, with a better OL, better WR's and yes he would easily put up the numbers over some of the other QB's that ESPN, NFL Network jack off to......

[Black@Gold Forever32]

Deal in reality, and not your rah rah bandwagon glee club mind.

Brady, Peyton, Rogers, Eli, Brees, Flacco, Wilson, Luck, RG3, and Stafford are better QB's.

Ben can't throw on rhythm, or deep from the pocket. He runs blown plays and throws darts to guys who can shake open.
Ariens wouldn't take Ben now if he could get him for free.
When Ariens calls a play, he found out how sweet life is when the QB runs the play, and how good O-linemen can be because they don't have eyes on the back of their heads.

Another genius post by weakdraft....eyes rolling......

[NeilPatrickBanana]

Ben isn't top five cause you say so......ok.....Here is the thing you're entitled to your opinion but the people who think Ben is are also entitled to their opinion......Like to see Ben in a dome, with a better OL, better WR's and yes he would easily put up the numbers over some of the other QB's that ESPN, NFL Network jack off to......

I always find this comment odd...

[Crash]

He's right though. ESPN has their own agenda. You know damn well Dilfer created the QBR to help his pocket passing buddies and discredit QBs like Ben.

Steve Young is so delusional when it comes to Ben it's scary. All because Ben beat his boy Holmgren in the Super Bowl.

[NeilPatrickBanana]

He's right though. ESPN has their own agenda. You know damn well Dilfer created the QBR to help his pocket passing buddies and discredit QBs like Ben.

Steve Young is so delusional when it comes to Ben it's scary. All because Ben beat his boy Holmgren in the Super Bowl.

QBR was created by Dean Oliver, Ph.D Statistical Application in Environmental Sciences

As a statistical correlation to QB performance and winning, it is the most accurate predictor of wins (the team with the better QBR in a H2H matchup has won 86 percent of the time over the last 5 years)

Your pocket passer comment is odd, since QBR punishes pocket passers by making Run EPA a part of overall QBR (and rewards mobile QBs). It's clear you don't know anything about QBR.