:barf Fu*k U Flakeo
:barf Fu*k U Flakeo
Last edited by North Steel; 02-03-2013 at 11:49 PM.
No, facts are facts.
You **** off the media? They get even in other ways.
Chuck Noll hated the media. That media NEVER voted the ONLY coach to win four Super Bowls as coach of the year during that run.
In regards to conference, He's now in the conversation for top QB in the AFC... no doubt.
Brady and Manning are getting old...
I agree we can argue about the top 7-8, and we'd have most of the same QBs, in different orders. I'd have Rodgers #1
The NFL has become like the NBA. It's marketed that way now. There is an overemphasis on individual players rather than teams. And of course the individual players that are overemphasized and marketed as "superstars" are quarterbacks, wide receivers and running backs. Some defensive players also make the cut if they have a nifty dance. As a result, the word elite is thrown around like a rag doll.
Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Tom Brady. These guys are elite. Joe Flacco is as elite as Brad Johnson. One good season and a playoff run combined with a Super Bowl win doesn't equal elite. Especially when it's mixed in with a bunch of mediocre seasons at best.
I even have difficulty calling Roethlisberger elite at this point. One more Super Bowl win with similar passing heroics as in 2008 and he's 100% elite. Even people mentioning flavor of the month quarterbacks like Brees and Rodgers as elite is a bit much.
Maybe saying they're elite amongst everyone else currently playing is accurate. And Flacco still doesn't fit in that category. I would take at least 10 other quarterbacks for a season over him.
And the Super Bowl MVP is meaningless. It's like those in sports media deciding that no one belonged in the Hall of Fame because they said so. Roethlisberger should've gotten the MVP in 2008 and if his name was Manning or Brady, he would've.
Regardless of what ESPN says, Flacco is not even close to elite and he's not even close to being better than Roethlisberger.
However, the Ravens are a far superior team to the Steelers. They have better receivers. A better offensive line. A better defense. A better running back and a better head coach.
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