Quote Originally Posted by Black@Gold Forever32 View Post
Really when hasn't the Steelers been a contender besides this year?........2009 Ben was damn good and it wasn't all his fault for defensive collapses during the 2009 season........2010 the Steelers reached the Super Bowl......2011 was still a play-off year......If you think I'm making excuses for Ben during 2009 then go ahead but its a fact that defense and special team collapses killed that team during that season........So really the only two years the Steelers were not contenders during Ben's career was 2006 and 2012..........Ben coming back from his motorcycle accident and then his appendix in 2006 really set him back....Didn't help that Cowher was basically a lame duck coach that year.....

2012 Ben sucked at the end and really the entire team sucked.......
so... lets look a those 4 years :
2009 miss playoffs
2010 lose super bowl
2011 1 and done
2012 miss playoffs

Flacco
2009 1 playoff win
2010 1 playoff win
2011 1 playoff win, lose AFC Championship game
2012 * lose super bowl

So even if Flacco loses the super bowl... he's been more successful than Ben over the last 4 years... so... who is elite right now, since you weight post season performance so much.