NeilPatrick since you love questioning Ben so much....How about Tom Brady now?.....If its fair to question Ben then its also fair to starting questioning the great Tom Brady........
I think QBR is a great indicator of winning. Kaepernick and Flacco are #1 and #3 in the playoffs in QBR.
i don't know what the definition of ball washing is. You are impressed with Flacco's playoff run... so am I. This is actually his 3rd consecutive "impressive" playoff run. It seems to me, that the definition of ball washing around here, is talking about any other QB, the way we talk about Ben.
The thing that still separates Brady from Ben... is that Brady's teams are a contender every year... and the Steelers aren't. of course, we have plenty of excuses for that (coaches, playcalling, oline, 4th quarter defense...) I personally don't think Elite QBs have an excuse... the thing that makes them elite, is that their team is always a contender because of them.
Brady's a farce.
Sure he beats up a crap division.
But since they got caught in Spygate? He's lost 3 home playoff games and 2 Super Bowls.
Until he wins a ring without cheating? Piling up regular season numbers means squat.
Of course I still think Ben is a top QB and I'm sorry Flacco needs a Super Bowl to join that group......just my opinion.....Its not like Flacco is Dan Marino.......You know....Dan Marino was elite even without a ring......
2012 Ben sucked at the end and really the entire team sucked.......
I agree, it's the rings that get Ben mentioned with the elites. It certainly isn't the "fantasy football stats" and it's definitely not the consistency. My argument is that while the "ring" is the MOST important aspect of judging a CAREER. It's not the most important aspect of the label "elite". It's a factor... but a ring from 5 years ago, is relatively meaningless in the conversation of the best QBs in the game right now. As far as winning and "big games" go... the present is most important, followed by the relatively recent. Along with that comes TALENT. And I'd much rather have more interesting conversations about ability, skill sets, weaknesses, etc.
At the end of the day... I don't really carry about labels. I do however, enjoy debating talent and performance... and right now... Flacco is playing like an elite QB, taking his team to the super bowl.
I dont think Flacco squats when he pee's anymore. Dude is pretty damn good in the playoffs, I think the Rats win this superbowl, I could care less is the Niners got 6, I just so it this year.
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