Todd Haley-Arizona?

**connecticutsteel** · 01-03-2013, 01:38 PM

IF HALEY LEFT THE ULTIMATE WOULD BE NORV TURNER WE WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE HE'S A GREAT OC BUT AN OK HEAD COACH

**LatrobePA** · 01-03-2013, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by connecticutsteel

IF HALEY LEFT THE ULTIMATE WOULD BE NORV TURNER WE WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE HE'S A GREAT OC BUT AN OK HEAD COACH

I'd take nut sack neck in a heart beat!

**Goodfrom55** · 01-03-2013, 02:01 PM

Before his injury, Ben was having a career year and the Steelers were rolling. Problem is from a personnel perspective, the Steelers were not capable of running outside at all unless Mendenhall was in there and he wasn't. The line was shreaded with injuries so the pass protection broke down. Ben got hurt and Lefty and Batch are not Ben.

Yes these are excuses, and while I do not completely agree with some of the play calls, was Ben ordered to run those plays or did he have the freedom to check out of them? How many times were the Steelers in 3rd and 2 from the 5 yard line and Ben throws a fade, which is a low percentage play? It's not like the Steelers were 5-11 this year. They were about 6 total plays away from being 12-4. If Haley comes back, I believe he will have a better understanding of what he has to work with and I look for a more expanded playbook in 2013. Throw away some things that don't work and implement some things that did.

Believe me, Haley is the least of the Steelers offseason issues.

**Raleigh Steel** · 01-03-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Crash

If you think Ben was horrible in Dallas in regulation then you didn't watch the game.

If Ben's shoulder was an issue against the Bengals (which I don't believe it was), then why after running the ball twice from the Bengals 32, and why after running the ball on three straight plays with a demoted/suspended the week before running back with three minutes left from the Steelers 46, are we having said bum shoulder throwing the ball from his own 11 with :44 seconds left?

Wouldn't the SMART thing to do would be to go to OT, and if you happen to lose the coin toss maybe force a turnover on defense for the 4th time that day?

You can try to blame Ben all you want.

The golf coach's play-calling does all my talking for me.

The play-calling in the first half of the year was the same as it was when we played Cincy:

Ben trying to save Chi Chi Rodriquez's ass on 3rd down.

**NeilPatrickBanana** · 01-03-2013, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Crash

If Ben's shoulder was an issue against the Bengals (which I don't believe it was), then why , are we having said bum shoulder throwing the ball from his own 11 with :44 seconds left?

I'm sure i'm not the only one laughing at the irony here.

**NeilPatrickBanana** · 01-03-2013, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by connecticutsteel

IF HALEY LEFT THE ULTIMATE WOULD BE NORV TURNER WE WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE HE'S A GREAT OC BUT AN OK HEAD COACH

I can't think of a worse Offense for this team to run.

Are you guys not familiar with "Air Coryell" ? Do you not know what elements and skill sets it requires most.

Norv Turnver would be a terrible fit for our Offense (Ben, WRs, Heath)

**Crash** · 01-03-2013, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana

I'm sure i'm not the only one laughing at the irony here.

I'm laughing at you're poor editing job.

**Nolrog** · 01-03-2013, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by jdehoff83

If he did leave who would be our options? Is the better question

Norv Turner

**NeilPatrickBanana** · 01-03-2013, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Nolrog

Norv Turner

dumb

**jpele** · 01-03-2013, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Harrison92

Before his injury, Ben was having a career year and the Steelers were rolling. Problem is from a personnel perspective, the Steelers were not capable of running outside at all unless Mendenhall was in there and he wasn't. The line was shreaded with injuries so the pass protection broke down. Ben got hurt and Lefty and Batch are not Ben.

Yes these are excuses, and while I do not completely agree with some of the play calls, was Ben ordered to run those plays or did he have the freedom to check out of them? How many times were the Steelers in 3rd and 2 from the 5 yard line and Ben throws a fade, which is a low percentage play? It's not like the Steelers were 5-11 this year. They were about 6 total plays away from being 12-4. If Haley comes back, I believe he will have a better understanding of what he has to work with and I look for a more expanded playbook in 2013. Throw away some things that don't work and implement some things that did.

Believe me, Haley is the least of the Steelers offseason issues.

Wow ! At least one board member has been paying attention. How refreshing .