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    Haley Haters

    Your selective quoting has been noted. You are neither intelligent or interested in honest debate.

    And I am using Ben's shoulder in the same context. The reason the steelers missed the playoffs was because of Ben's injury, which led to his poor play, which led to losses in critical games

    You on the other hand think it's because we ran too much, even though we ran much less than in the years that you praise as Ben's best.

    Your a walking contradiction, and you edit your replies to ignore the massive holes in your "theory".
    Last edited by NeilPatrickBanana; 01-15-2013 at 05:46 PM.

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    And I am using Ben's shoulder in the same context. The reason the steelers missed the playoffs was because of Ben's injury, which led to his poor play, which led to losses in critical games
    So blowing 4th quarter leads at Denver, Dallas, Tennessee, and Oakland don't count?

    Oh that's right, we can't blame the defense can we?

    The play-calling sucks. You look at pass attempts. Me? I look at TYPE.

    Took the modern day Terry Bradshaw and cut his balls off.

    Didn't work.

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    Haley Haters

    Are you guys still pissing?

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    Still hope though, McCoy got the Chargers job.

    Hopefully Bidwell will give in to Haley's supposed "outrageous" demands.

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    Well, in the Tenessee game, I know it wasn't Haley when the cornerbacks were giving 10 yard cushions to Damian Williams. Damian Williams?????

    And I believe that was the same defensive technique also used in the Raiders game.
    The Steeler way...is the only way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Deal Steel View Post
    Well, in the Tenessee game, I know it wasn't Haley when the cornerbacks were giving 10 yard cushions to Damian Williams. Damian Williams?????

    And I believe that was the same defensive technique also used in the Raiders game.
    Yep. It's easy to blame Ben when one has an agenda.

    The BIGGEST problems are ownership meddling, and scheme on BOTH sides of the ball.

    And that doesn't even consider the clown that Amos Jones is.

    This staff is in shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    Yep. It's easy to blame Ben when one has an agenda.

    The BIGGEST problems are ownership meddling, and scheme on BOTH sides of the ball.

    And that doesn't even consider the clown that Amos Jones is.

    This staff is in shambles.

    If you think it's in shambles now wait until next season. We could lose 10 of 22 starters. If so that's going too hurt and hurt bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    So blowing 4th quarter leads at Denver, Dallas, Tennessee, and Oakland don't count?

    Oh that's right, we can't blame the defense can we?

    The play-calling sucks. You look at pass attempts. Me? I look at TYPE.

    Took the modern day Terry Bradshaw and cut his balls off.

    Didn't work.
    again, you can't even recognize your own hypocrisy. The offensive playcalling was so bad, that we had a 4th quarter lead to blow?

    What's also funny, is that Ben had a chance to win all of those games in the 4th quarter. some how you've forgotten that. an yes, im about to sarcastically point out a couple different series from each game, point straight to the playcalling, and pretend like each isolated series i selective choose proves my point

    DENVER (After denver took the lead in the 4th quarter
    RUN-7 Yds
    PASS-INC
    PASS-INC
    PUNT

    Denver extends lead to 6, Ben gets another chance to win the game:
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-INC
    PASS-INT-DEF TD

    Failed in a "win the game scenario... even though the play calling was good enough to give you a 4th quarter lead.
    40 Pass to 26 run

    DALLAS - Post Dallas 4th quarter tie game
    1ST DRIVE
    RUN
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-COMP
    RUN
    PASS-SACK
    PUNT

    2ND DRIVE
    PASS-INC
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-SACK
    PASS-SACK
    PASS-COMP-SHORT

    3RD DRIVE (OT)
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-INT-LOSE

    3 chances to win the game, ultimately threw the game losing INT instead
    40 pass to 17 rush

    TENNESSEE
    after the defense came up with a huge 4th quarter INT setting the offense up at midfield:
    PASS-COMP-1st
    RUN
    PASS-INC
    PASS-INC-FG

    after TEN tied the game, Ben got the ball back with a chance to win the game:
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-COMP
    RUN
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-SCRAMBLE
    PASS-COMP
    RUN
    PASS-INC-FG MISS

    Had a chance to win the game, ultimately failed to convert on 3rd down, and left the kicker out to dry
    40 pass to 22 rush

    OAKLAND
    Ben threw 4 TDs...the playcalling sure sucked. Although, on the final series, with a chance to ice the game, and a fresh 1st down... Ben went:
    - PASS-SACK
    - PASS-INC
    - PASS-INC - Stopping the clock with 1:43 left

    The coaching staff put the game in Ben's hand, and he failed to get a first down.
    49 pass to 20 rush

    In all 4 games you point to as defensive failures (they were), they also were QB failures, as each game could've been won late in the 4th quarter. You asked what we are paying a QB 20 million to do... well, we are paying him to do exactly what he failed to do in the 4 games you mentioned.

    we also called pass plays nearly 70 percent of the time in those 4 games

    it's over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    again, you can't even recognize your own hypocrisy. The offensive playcalling was so bad, that we had a 4th quarter lead to blow?

    What's also funny, is that Ben had a chance to win all of those games in the 4th quarter. some how you've forgotten that. an yes, im about to sarcastically point out a couple different series from each game, point straight to the playcalling, and pretend like each isolated series i selective choose proves my point

    DENVER (After denver took the lead in the 4th quarter
    RUN-7 Yds
    PASS-INC
    PASS-INC
    PUNT

    Denver extends lead to 6, Ben gets another chance to win the game:
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-INC
    PASS-INT-DEF TD

    Failed in a "win the game scenario... even though the play calling was good enough to give you a 4th quarter lead.
    40 Pass to 26 run

    DALLAS - Post Dallas 4th quarter tie game
    1ST DRIVE
    RUN
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-COMP
    RUN
    PASS-SACK
    PUNT

    2ND DRIVE
    PASS-INC
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-SACK
    PASS-SACK
    PASS-COMP-SHORT

    3RD DRIVE (OT)
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-INT-LOSE

    3 chances to win the game, ultimately threw the game losing INT instead
    40 pass to 17 rush

    TENNESSEE
    after the defense came up with a huge 4th quarter INT setting the offense up at midfield:
    PASS-COMP-1st
    RUN
    PASS-INC
    PASS-INC-FG

    after TEN tied the game, Ben got the ball back with a chance to win the game:
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-COMP
    RUN
    PASS-COMP
    PASS-SCRAMBLE
    PASS-COMP
    RUN
    PASS-INC-FG MISS

    Had a chance to win the game, ultimately failed to convert on 3rd down, and left the kicker out to dry
    40 pass to 22 rush

    OAKLAND
    Ben threw 4 TDs...the playcalling sure sucked. Although, on the final series, with a chance to ice the game, and a fresh 1st down... Ben went:
    - PASS-SACK
    - PASS-INC
    - PASS-INC - Stopping the clock with 1:43 left

    The coaching staff put the game in Ben's hand, and he failed to get a first down.
    49 pass to 20 rush

    In all 4 games you point to as defensive failures (they were), they also were QB failures, as each game could've been won late in the 4th quarter. You asked what we are paying a QB 20 million to do... well, we are paying him to do exactly what he failed to do in the 4 games you mentioned.

    we also called pass plays nearly 70 percent of the time in those 4 games

    it's over.
    You're logic's been over.

    You are charting plays. You aren't looking at the type. Any idiot can do that.

    7.3 YPA. 2nd lowest of his career.

    8-8.

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