364/575, 4,179 yards, 33 TD, 10 INT

**scudmissile29** · 12-31-2012, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Crash

Haley sucks. If he wasn't a Rooney puppet the Cincy and Dallas games would have been long over before those picks were thrown.

The battle lines have been drawn:

Rooney/Haley

vs

Ben/Tomlin

We'll see what Art decides to do.

Tomlin's comments today sound like he wants Haley out.

If Art doesn't let him? I can see Tomlin walking, and Ben following him.

Lots of jobs open, Tomlin would get one in a week.

oh do shut up with your shitty rumours/superstitions.

idiot

**Crash** · 12-31-2012, 05:45 PM

That is absolutely ridiculous!! Tomlin and Ben are not going anywhere, and neither is Haley. Why do so many people think a new OC can just come in and in their first season with the team the offense won't have any growing pains?

Because growing pains weren't the problem. Haley obsessing over the 26th ranked rushing game in key spots with a HOF QB behind center, was.

**Goodfrom55** · 12-31-2012, 06:18 PM

I believe Haley was trying to establish balance and not be one dimensional. With an elite QB as Ben is, obviously the emphasis has to be on throwing the football. Again, any threat of a running game only opens up the passing game more and it also slows down the pass rush. Problem is steelers don't have the personnel to run anywhere but between the tackles with RB's who run a 4.8 40 yard dash. Not fooling anyone with that stuff. If not Mendenhall, then the Steelers need SOMEONE who can run inside as well as outside and force the defense to defend the pass while also having to defend the run sideline to sideline.

**Goodfrom55** · 12-31-2012, 06:18 PM

that said, I don't agree with run run pass after a turnover. Should be going for the jugular at that point.

**Get7With7** · 12-31-2012, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Harrison92

that said, I don't agree with run run pass after a turnover. Should be going for the jugular at that point.

The problem is that would be "scoring too quickly."

**TarlsQtr** · 12-31-2012, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Get7With7

The problem is that would be "scoring too quickly."

Well, although I believe you score when you can there is something to say for a long, grinding drive in the 4th quarter. Cowher did that with the Bus very well.

**LatrobePA** · 12-31-2012, 07:28 PM

Stats are for losers, which we are...

**TarlsQtr** · 12-31-2012, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by LatrobePA

Stats are for losers, which we are...

LOL, yeah I would agree. There is only one stat that matters this year, 8-8.

**LatrobePA** · 12-31-2012, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by TarlsQtr

LOL, yeah I would agree. There is only one stat that matters this year, 8-8.

Right. He threw picks when we needed first downs and or TD's. Sorry gang, truth hurts!

**Get7With7** · 12-31-2012, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by TarlsQtr

Well, although I believe you score when you can there is something to say for a long, grinding drive in the 4th quarter. Cowher did that with the Bus very well.

The problem is this season the Steelers did that the majority of the game, which meant if Ben didn't pull a miracle out of his ass the Steelers were screwed.