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    LeBeau confident in 'Cover 2'.....

    The concept of "Cover 2" is neither the polar opposite of the way Dick LeBeau likes to play defense nor foreign to the Steelers' unit he coordinates.
    "We've always been a pretty big 'Cover 2' team," LeBeau said Tuesday. "At one time, we probably were a 'Cover 2' team. For the last three years, we've been close to a 50-percent 'Cover 2' team."

    "Cover 2" was originated by then-Steelers defensive coordinator Bud Carson in the 1970s. The basic idea was to prevent big plays by positioning a pair of safeties, each responsible for 50 percent of the field, in deep coverage.

    Former Steelers safety and former Steelers assistant coach Tony Dungy expanded "Cover 2" into what has become known across the NFL as the 'Tampa 2' during his days as the head coach of the Buccaneers (1996-2001). Dungy's innovation was to assign the middle linebacker deep-middle coverage responsibility in "Cover 2."

    Dungy's Colts and Lovie Smith's Chicago Bears meet Sunday in Super Bowl XLI. Smith is a former Dungy assistant in Tampa. Both defenses feature the "Tampa 2" version of "Cover 2."

    The Steelers are famous for using a zone-blitz, which LeBeau created in Cincinnati in the 1980s.

    But that doesn't mean the Steelers haven't been well-versed in the principles of "Cover 2" all along, both in recent seasons and during LeBeau's first tour as an assistant under Bill Cowher from 1992-96.

    "Hopefully, we've disguised it well enough that you can't tell before the ball gets snapped," LeBeau said.

    Thus, if new Steelers coach and former Dungy disciple Mike Tomlin wants to emphasize "Cover 2" over the zone-blitz or the 4-3 front as opposed to the Steelers' standard 3-4, LeBeau believes the Steelers will have that covered.

    "The head coach is going set the overall tenor and philosophy of our team," LeBeau said. "Whatever he would decide to do is what we're going to do.

    "Now, you might say I'm a little bit of a 3-4 guy and our guys are 3-4 guys. And I think that will come into consideration, but it's up to Mike. Philosophically, whether it's the 3-4 or the 4-3, I don't think we'll have any trouble doing what we want to do, which is put pressure on the quarterback."

    The Steelers' zone-blitz approach has always endeavored to do so by surprise because the Steelers have always favored a three-man line.

    "In a four-man line, you're saying 'Here are our linemen and these are our linebackers,'" LeBeau said. "Now, you can still rush linebackers and drop linemen, but your linemen are identified as four down linemen in the 4-3. In the 3-4, you're saying, 'Here are our three linemen. You figure out which of our linebackers is going to be the fourth, or the fifth pass-rusher.'

    "If we're going to go to 'Cover 2,' we'll only have four rushers. If we're going to a zone-pressure (zone-blitz), we'll have five or more. But we can still play some '2' coverage concepts behind a five-man rush."

    LeBeau maintains the Steelers are capable of playing a four-man front because of the versatility of defensive ends Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel and the presence of backup nose tackle Chris Hoke.

    And LeBeau considers "Cover 2" capability a necessity in today's game as a method of combating offenses that spread the field in search of the big play.

    "I think you gotta play some '2' coverage," LeBeau said. "It would be very hard to find any team in college or pro ball that doesn't play some sort of 'Cover 2.'

    "I don't think that anybody plays any coverage all the time. The quarterbacks are too good. Even Indianapolis, you might say, is a 'Cover 2' team. Probably (the Colts') run to the Super Bowl has come from the way their defense has played down the stretch, but it hasn't been all 'Cover 2,' I can promise you that."

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    I think we'll be fine. Too many fans blew the whole 3-4, 4-3 out of proportion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday133 View Post
    I think we'll be fine. Too many fans blew the whole 3-4, 4-3 out of proportion.
    ummm ya

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    TOP GUN: any of this sound familiar?

    LeBeau maintains the Steelers are capable of playing a four-man front because of the versatility of defensive ends Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel and the presence of backup nose tackle Chris Hoke.
    I do not want to rehash an old argument but there it is, the exact thing I said to you. Smith, Hoke, Hampton, Kiesel That would be the 4 they played in a 4-3 defense and I believe they could put plenty of pressure on QB's. According to the article in that first post we will see some of this formation this coming season. Wouldn't surprise me either to see a DT drafted in April to help out playing a "cover-2" 4 man front. You can use a LB as DE in a pinch so I think DT would be the position needing filled to create depth behind Hoke & Hampton. Not to just pick and choose the part of the article that supports my claims I also saw the first part where Lebeau talks about the team being built for the 3-4. Kinda funny that the article hits on both of our talking points.

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    Theres a few of us who think we're not that far from converting to 4-3, whats up in the air is if we will do it soon or possibly never. What we do in the draft will dictate whether we stay 3-4 or switch in the coming years to a 4-3. Either way I'm not leaning or favoring one over the other. As long as we got LeBeau scheming we'll still be creating chaos for the opposing OC's.


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    I still like the idea of trying to mix both defenses in. That way you confuse the **** out of an offense. Thats why drafting guys that can be both 4-3 and 3-4 guys would be sweet.

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    I believe we will see some sort of hybrid defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Black@Gold Forever32 View Post
    I still like the idea of trying to mix both defenses in. That way you confuse the **** out of an offense. Thats why drafting guys that can be both 4-3 and 3-4 guys would be sweet.
    I expect to see us use both fronts in this coming season. And I also think that between Lebeau's defensive genius and Tomlin's experience with the "cover 2" that we will see a very versatile defense! I myself cannot wait to see it in action!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGold4vr View Post
    I do not want to rehash an old argument but there it is, the exact thing I said to you. Smith, Hoke, Hampton, Kiesel That would be the 4 they played in a 4-3 defense and I believe they could put plenty of pressure on QB's. According to the article in that first post we will see some of this formation this coming season. Wouldn't surprise me either to see a DT drafted in April to help out playing a "cover-2" 4 man front. You can use a LB as DE in a pinch so I think DT would be the position needing filled to create depth behind Hoke & Hampton. Not to just pick and choose the part of the article that supports my claims I also saw the first part where Lebeau talks about the team being built for the 3-4. Kinda funny that the article hits on both of our talking points.


    Man you do like debating dont you Yes it is interesting how touched on both of our points. You and I definately dove into this argument full bore. I can see us drafting another DE or picking up 1 in FA to help with depth if we're going to run this more. I hope they do some type of hybrid scheme incorportating both like we had been, but with Tomlin's expertise combining with Lebeau's expertise it could be something super special.

    "In a four-man line, you're saying 'Here are our linemen and these are our linebackers,'" LeBeau said. "Now, you can still rush linebackers and drop linemen, but your linemen are identified as four down linemen in the 4-3. In the 3-4, you're saying, 'Here are our three linemen. You figure out which of our linebackers is going to be the fourth, or the fifth pass-rusher.'

    "If we're going to go to 'Cover 2,' we'll only have four rushers. If we're going to a zone-pressure (zone-blitz), we'll have five or more. But we can still play some '2' coverage concepts behind a five-man rush."
    I think that part of the article really hits home with what you and I were talkign about and it supports both of our theories. I bow to Dick Lebeau, he is the man; if he can take both the Cover 2 and Zone blitz and incorporate it even more then we could downright awesome on defense.

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    One word for y'all.....Okoye....Hes going to be a beast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DIESELMAN View Post
    One word for y'all.....Okoye....Hes going to be a beast.
    Hell yes he is and he should be the pick if he is there at 15. Put him in the rotation at Dline when we go to a 4-3 front and thinks would get nasty.

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