Take a seat, Ben

[Crash]

I hope they trade Ben. They don't use him except when it's last 2 minutes.

First down at our 46 we run 4 plays in a row. Why not Ben then?

First drive of the half after a turnover, more running.

You can't expect Ben to bail them out every week in 2 minutes. You can't.

They should have went to OT and taken their chances.

[Goodfrom55]

Ben is still playing hurt. He was terrible today, but he is hardly the real problem (problems) of this team.

The OC **** the sheets today, worst game called by haley all year. Very disappointing. Watch, they'll blow out Clevaland by 30 next week becuase it doesn't matter.

[Goodfrom55]

that said, this loss is on ben.

[SuperSteelers]

The thing that separates Ben from the super high end QB's is that he doesn't throw timing passes enough. Meaning, he doesn't throw passes with the anticipation of the WR making the break. But Ben is still a top tier QB.

Isn't timing passes part of what makes an elite QB? No doubt he is a good QB but not elite. As long as he has a good team around him he can win but anything less then good or great he can't carry the team to victory.

[steelersbabex25]

The OC **** the sheets today, worst game called by haley all year. Very disappointing. Watch, they'll blow out Clevaland by 30 next week becuase it doesn't matter.

Yeah Haley was no help either

[Speeed]

I disagree. Do you see what you are doing? Blaming the loss on one player. ONE PLAYER. Yes, get rid of Ben, we would have won by 21 points. This team has all kinds of problems.

Ben is not an elite QB. Never has been, never will be. Although he has a couple superbowls wins only proves that he was surrounded by a good team. He sure as hell didn't do it by himself. He can't carry an average team unlike the elite QBs in this league.

[SuperSteelers]

I'm glad the season is over. Didn't want this team and Ben to look silly in the playoffs.

[steelersbabex25]

I disagree. Do you see what you are doing? Blaming the loss on one player. ONE PLAYER. Yes, get rid of Ben, we would have won by 21 points. This team has all kinds of problems.

Question, what problems did we have besides Ben and the offensive line?

[Real Deal Steel]

They had no real running game today. And the offensive line's play was horrible.

the first thing they need to do is get a real O-line coach who will bring in a better scheme and new conditioning too.

[Speeed]

And I bet he completed 75 percent of the "timing passes" he threw today. Timing passes are not a staple of the Haley offense.

Isn't timing passes part of what makes an elite QB? No doubt he is a good QB but not elite. As long as he has a good team around him he can win but anything less then good or great he can't carry the team to victory.