Offensive genius my ass!

[Crash]

Dan also interfered in 1988 and ordered Noll to demote Dungy, who later quit.

[Steeldriven]

The scoring rank is misleading when the defense does not force turnovers. Every drive they score on is 75-80 yards, simply takes too much time. And we also don't go for quick scores also. That hurts them.

Too worried about chewing clock and not scoring points.

They were way too worried about clock management imo...put your foot on the gas and don't look back until your up by 21...play to your strengths and use the pass to set up the run...other than a few flashes this year the running game was shit...time to start reloading.

[Nolrog]

Or maybe the problem is an owner enamored with an outdated style of football.

That style of football will never be outdated. It's not currently in favor, but that doesn't make it any less effective. Strong defense and an effective running game is always a solid strategy.

[steelchamp204]

The best offense is HAVING A STRONG RUNNING GAME AND DEFENSE. Holy ****. If you can run the ball they way we used to. It would.

A. Keep the opposing offense off the field longer
B. Give our Defense more time to take a breather
C. Let the best game "manager" in Ben to make some plays
D. Open up the PA pass with Wallace/Brown/Sanders

You can think what you want, I would rather be run,run pass like yesterday. Its just our Oline is to banged up right now. When Adams comes back healthy the run game will improve.

[Crash]

Ben was never a game manager to those who watch him.

YESTERDAY, was what a game manager looks like.

[Stone]

The original poster is A GENIUS! Haley's offense has been vanilla.....not even vanilla bean!

All during this season I found myself saying "would this be the down to go for the bomb to Wallace"? and then answering myself "no, cause if it doesn't connect, we are screwed cause we have no game plan for what we're left with".

Offensive genius my ass!

[steelchamp204]

Ben was never a game manager to those who watch him.

YESTERDAY, was what a game manager looks like.

Ben in his early days was just a game "manager" He would only throw about 15-23 times a game. That is managing a game.

[Crash]

Ben in his early days was just a game "manager" He would only throw about 15-23 times a game. That is managing a game.

But when most of the work is done in the first half, and then you chew clock after getting the lead, what was the focal point? Run or pass?

You also have to remember that Ben in his first two seasons averaged 8.9 yards per attempt. Not going to pile up a ton of passing attempts when you aren't throwing short.

[Crash]

On 3rd and 8 before Suisham's miss Gary Player had Mike Wallace run a 5 yard route, and DAVID PAULSON running deep.

"Genius"

[Crash]

A Crash Quiz: Which column is better below:

1. 16 games: 226 of 361 (62 percent) for 3188 yards (8.3 YPA) for 24 TDS 12 INTS, 99.3 QB rating 5 rush tds = 29 total TDs

or

2. 18 games: 324 of 510 (63 percent) for 3415 yards (6.9 YPA) for 19 TDS 13 INTS, 84.7 QB rating 1 rush td = 20 total TDs

I'll be back with the answer later.........