Steelers versus Bengals: Who wins and WHY?? Score predictions!!!

[LatrobePA]

Trade everyone Turn the Turf blue, Instead of Renegade they can play the beatles. Everything haha

Would be a freaking mess! lol

[Crash]

Missing the playoffs is missing the playoffs. Be it 8-8 or 4-10.

First words out of Art's yapper to Ben after the season if he plans to keep him better be "I'm sorry".

Because Art's the one who's responsible for this crap.

[Clevelandsux]

His last game will be in 2 weeks. Or if they lose they can shut him down to protect their trade.

I think Ben's done here after 2012. The organization proved this off season (and in years past) that they don't really value him.

Can't see Art paying Ben what Peyton and Brees just got in guaranteed money.

dude quit smoking crack. ben aint going nowhere.
do you have inside info? Do u talk to the rooneys on a daily basis? I cant stand people that just come on here to stir the pot.

[Clevelandsux]

I could only imagine if this team was 4-10 right now.

Did u live in the 1980s?

[pontiacbubba]

Man if the REAL Steelers Team shows up 30-17 Steelers.

[Raleigh Steel]

Not as many as Haley. And how many were to get Hines his 1000 catches? Yeah, we ran WR screens with Arians but we also went vertical.

Case in point first down at the 50 last week after Browns big return. BA would have attacked the Cowboys.

Haley ran twice and threw a dump to Will Johnson.

THEN Dallas went down and scored. Totally changed the momentum of the game.

We don't attack on offense anymore. We play not to lose and to rest our defense.

you're just flat out wrong on BA and his WR screen plays.

but interesting that you brought up the dallas game. guess you forgot about this game:
2009: Steelers vs. raiders

opening kickoff returned to the raiders 19.
1-10: ben to holmes, 5 yards
2-5: mendenhall off left tackle, -1 yard
3-6: ben to holmes, short pass middle, incomplete

mendenhall runs 60 yards to the raiders 14 yard line.
1-10: mendenhall up the middle for 4.
2-6: mendenhall off right guard for 5.
3-1: mendenhall up the middle for no gain.
4-1: big ben sneak for no gain.


that is just one example. so keep trying to rewrite the BA experience...it won't fly. but if that's not enough, here are some more numbers for you:

Under BA:
ATT: 456.2/game CMP: 289.2/game CMP%: 63.4

Under TH:
ATT: 398/game CMP: 255 CMP%: 64.1


Under BA:
Yards per game: 247.39 AVG per ATT: 7.91 TD/game: 1.55 TD/season: 22.6

Under TH:
Yards per game: 264.64 AVG per ATT: 7.31 TD/game: 2 TD/season: Incomplete (pace for 26 this season)

Under BA:
INT/game: .78 INT/season: 11.4 QBR: 60.45 QB RATING: 94.36

Under TH:
INT/game: .55 INT/season: incomplete (pace for 7) QBR: 68.3 QB RATING: 98.1

Under BA:
Sacks/game: 2.94 Sacks/season: 43

Under TH:
Sacks/game: 2.18 Sacks/season: incomplete (pace for 28)

Under BA:
red zone efficiency: 53.37

Under TH:
red zone efficiency: currently 54.55

Under BA:
rushing ATT/game: 460.8 rushing yards/season: 1896

Under TH:
rushing ATT/game: incomplete (pace for 403) rushing yards/season: incomplete (pace for 1544)


so as you can see, your entire premise is bogus. you made a snap judgement of the entire season season on one drive. ben is actually throwing more, is more accurate, has more TD's, less INT's, and gets sacked less under haley. the team is actually running less. so ART isn't getting what he wants, ben isn't just turning around and handing off the ball, and the offense is in slightly better hands now than it was under BA.

so, again, your entire argument that ben won't be here next year for the reasons you stated are just flat out wrong. you went hyper-emotional after one drive of one game. thank God you have zero input in the day to day functions of the team.

[steelchamp204]

Did u live in the 1980s?

Well I guees you can say I did. Was born in 88. So, memory doesnt serve me good for the 80's haha.

[steelchamp204]

you're just flat out wrong on BA and his WR screen plays.

but interesting that you brought up the dallas game. guess you forgot about this game:
2009: Steelers vs. raiders

opening kickoff returned to the raiders 19.
1-10: ben to holmes, 5 yards
2-5: mendenhall off left tackle, -1 yard
3-6: ben to holmes, short pass middle, incomplete

mendenhall runs 60 yards to the raiders 14 yard line.
1-10: mendenhall up the middle for 4.
2-6: mendenhall off right guard for 5.
3-1: mendenhall up the middle for no gain.
4-1: big ben sneak for no gain.


that is just one example. so keep trying to rewrite the BA experience...it won't fly. but if that's not enough, here are some more numbers for you:

Under BA:
ATT: 456.2/game CMP: 289.2/game CMP%: 63.4

Under TH:
ATT: 398/game CMP: 255 CMP%: 64.1


Under BA:
Yards per game: 247.39 AVG per ATT: 7.91 TD/game: 1.55 TD/season: 22.6

Under TH:
Yards per game: 264.64 AVG per ATT: 7.31 TD/game: 2 TD/season: Incomplete (pace for 26 this season)

Under BA:
INT/game: .78 INT/season: 11.4 QBR: 60.45 QB RATING: 94.36

Under TH:
INT/game: .55 INT/season: incomplete (pace for 7) QBR: 68.3 QB RATING: 98.1

Under BA:
Sacks/game: 2.94 Sacks/season: 43

Under TH:
Sacks/game: 2.18 Sacks/season: incomplete (pace for 28)

Under BA:
red zone efficiency: 53.37

Under TH:
red zone efficiency: currently 54.55

Under BA:
rushing ATT/game: 460.8 rushing yards/season: 1896

Under TH:
rushing ATT/game: incomplete (pace for 403) rushing yards/season: incomplete (pace for 1544)


so as you can see, your entire premise is bogus. you made a snap judgement of the entire season season on one drive. ben is actually throwing more, is more accurate, has more TD's, less INT's, and gets sacked less under haley. the team is actually running less. so ART isn't getting what he wants, ben isn't just turning around and handing off the ball, and the offense is in slightly better hands now than it was under BA.

so, again, your entire argument that ben won't be here next year for the reasons you stated are just flat out wrong. you went hyper-emotional after one drive of one game. thank God you have zero input in the day to day functions of the team.

Ding ding ding ding. Now stfu crash. Thanks.


Btw, where did you get these stats from? Im trying to find some new stat sites. ThanksRS

[Crash]

so, again, your entire argument that ben won't be here next year for the reasons you stated are just flat out wrong. you went hyper-emotional after one drive of one game. thank God you have zero input in the day to day functions of the team.

If I was running this team this wouldn't be happening.

I would value my franchise QB and stop handcuffing him.

I mentioned the 50 yard line and you are mentioning red zone. Our red zone problems, are caused because we can't run the ball in it.

BUT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANTED BA, AND NOW HALEY TO DO!

Run the ball, Stiller Football, yoi hmm ha okle dokle!

2009 vs. Green Bay: First play from scrimmage after a 12 yard punt return by Logan.

B.Roethlisberger pass deep right to M.Wallace for 60 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

at Miami

2nd and 8 at PIT 46 B.Roethlisberger pass deep right to M.Wallace for 54 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

at Detroit

1st and 10 at DET 47 B.Roethlisberger pass deep middle to M.Wallace for 47 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Funny how this drive was missed when you were looking at the Raider game.

Logan with another solid return, next play:

1st and 10 at PIT 40 B.Roethlisberger pass deep left to S.Holmes to OAK 3 for 57 yards (T.Branch).
1st and 3 at OAK 3 #64 Legursky reports as elgible receiver. R.Mendenhall left end for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Two plays, 60 yards. TD.

2010 at Miami

Sanders gives them a good kickoff return, next play?

1st and 10 at PIT 47 B.Roethlisberger pass deep left to M.Wallace for 53 yards, TOUCHDOWN [C.Wake].

Troy picks off McCoy in Cleveland, next play?

B.Roethlisberger pass deep middle to M.Wallace for 56 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

See the pattern here? Make a big play on special teams or defense? Then attack on offense.

Arians did, Haley doesn't.

And that's all I said, wasn't it?

Now we just putz along, trying to play 1970s football, dink and dunk, every run is up the middle.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Oh shit! Last two minutes of a game or half!

BEN HELP!

That doesn't work in THIS NFL.

Arians had problems too (mostly his infatuation with having David Johnson and Matt Spaeth on the field, tipping run or pass based on formation) but Haley's logic, and his play-calling, make BA look like Einstein.

My opinion is, and will remain, if this is the offense we plan on keeping, then Ben won't be here in 2013 to run it.

[SteelerCountry58]

If our boys can't get up for this must win game then F them all.
Steelers MUST win this game. Steelers 27-17