Ben not a top ten QB in this league

[SuperSteelers]

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but, Ben is not even in the same league as Brady, Peyton, Brees, Eli, etc... The Steelers have the weapons to have an excellent offensive team that should put up a lot of points. Is it the O-coordinator or head coach holding Ben back or is Ben just not good enough to read defenses and make the right reads and throws. Ben is an average QB to me that occasionally has a great game sprinkled in every now and then. Tom Brady and the rest seem to win no matter what is put on the field. I know he has a couple rings but in all honesty Ben has had some good defenses and managed the games well those superbowl years. Again, when I watch him play he just reminds me of an average QB that has to manage the game without turnovers and let the "D" play well enough to win. Someone help me see the light.

[scudmissile29]

brady is probably the best quarterback of all time, he is exceptional.

[Real Deal Steel]

Your upset. I get that. But Ben is still top 5 in this league. When he's healthy. And he's not anywhere near 100 percent right now.

I hope the Bengals put us out our misery next week. That way Tomlin, Le Beau and management will all be under the spot light in the off-season.

[steelchamp204]

How can you put this on Tomlin? Did you not see Ben play when BA was here? The blame goes to Ben/Haley/Offensive Line

[Black@Gold Forever32]

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but, Ben is not even in the same league as Brady, Peyton, Brees, Eli, etc... The Steelers have the weapons to have an excellent offensive team that should put up a lot of points. Is it the O-coordinator or head coach holding Ben back or is Ben just not good enough to read defenses and make the right reads and throws. Ben is an average QB to me that occasionally has a great game sprinkled in every now and then. Tom Brady and the rest seem to win no matter what is put on the field. I know he has a couple rings but in all honesty Ben has had some good defenses and managed the games well those superbowl years. Again, when I watch him play he just reminds me of an average QB that has to manage the game without turnovers and let the "D" play well enough to win. Someone help me see the light.

Ben reads defenses fine.......Its not like he is throwing INT's at the rate of a Jay Cutler or even Philip Rivers this season.......Look at the mistakes constantly being made by these young WR's...........Sanders, Brown, Wallace, all have drops, fumbled the ball this year.......

Eli isn't exactly setting the world on fire this year either........You're entitled to your opinion but I disagree and I'm not going to flame you.....

[teeceemadison]

i disagree, i think is he is elite...bad pass on that overtime throw....but we are not even in this game today without his play.....

he runs the plays that haley is calling....

they stopped going to heath in the second half, that isnt ben's fault, the antonio fumble wasnt his issue, the pick was, but again, without him in there, do you really think this even gets to ot?

[penguins&steelers]

Damn the sky falls on this board when we lose. I'm just as pissed off as any of you out there, but I'm not going to say irrational things.

[SuperSteelers]

How can you put this on Tomlin? Did you not see Ben play when BA was here? The blame goes to Ben/Haley/Offensive Line

Please enlighten us on who is to blame? I'm inclined to say Ben but you already now since I started this thread.

[steelchamp204]

Damn the sky falls on this board when we lose. I'm just as pissed off as any of you out there, but I'm not going to say irrational things.

This team has been inconsistant all year long. We have the personell on offense to be putting up 24+ a game. We have so much money into our defense that is not producing turnovers or sacks like they should. This whole season is a debacle.

[Black@Gold Forever32]

But I will ask can you can name 10 QB's you rather have then Ben?