Luck-Rookie-Arians Offense = 67.4 QBR
Ben-5th season-Arians Offense = 46.8
Ben-6th season-Arians Offense = 67.3
Ben-8th season-Arians Offense = 64.1
Ben-9th season-Arians Offense = 63.6
If being objective counts for anything... lol
Last edited by Black@Gold Forever32; 12-14-2012 at 06:51 PM.
Parker barely played Ben's rookie year...If you remember Duce Staley started out as the starting RB and then Bettis took over when Staley was hurt yet again......Again you're dismissing what Ben did his rookie just so you can praise your boy Luck......Ben still threw 17 TD's in less then 300 attempts....Ben had a hand in building those leads and then Cowher shut him down in the 2nd half by running the ball to kill the clock......
I love again how somebody mentions Ben's horrible Super Bowl XL performance without mentioning how Ben played great in three play-off games and was huge in the Steelers reaching Super Bowl XL.......You can go on all you want about the running game and defense even in Ben's rookie year but I highly doubt the Steelers make the play-offs with Maddox at QB in 2004.....Many of the so called experts didn't think the Steelers were a contender heading into 2004 since they were coming off a 6-10 season.............
Last edited by Black@Gold Forever32; 12-14-2012 at 06:58 PM.
It's not really ESPN invented either... Dean Oliver, PhD Statistics, who also invented ABBR (Advanced Basketball Metrics), created QBR
I'm sure you can google some stuff on the internet about how dumb QBR is and then you can tell me how you are smarter than the PhD guy
Clowns will be Clowns
I like QBR, because it shows the value in a game manager at QB, in a world where fantasy football has made people stupid.
You want to praise Roethlisberger's early career, and then trash Alex Smith present career... when aside from the age/stage of career differences... they are very similar. Low attempts, high YPA, great defense, run first offense.... You must not watch other teams play football very often.
you want to pick and choose facts/stats when they fit your narrative
QBR, an advanced stat developed by a PhD, supports my opinion on Luck
Are you going to play the rookie card now?
The truth is, that the lack of an advanced metric measuring QBs for so long has left people kind of dumb to understanding QB talent
Great an advanced stat developed by a PhD has Smith ranked higher then Ben....So it must be perfect right?....Like I said all stats are flawed in one way or another.......
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