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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    1. Factually false
    2. Factually false
    3. True, but a decline in competent talent as well as injuries play a role
    4. Tomlin pushed for that change
    5. True and False - for every example of bad clock management, I can also point to an example of good.
    That's why it's not worth responding to you. You pawn off your opinion as "factual." Just like "Luck is more talented than Roethlisberger" because you watched him play in college and you know.

    Your favorite channel is on. Go watch some coverage of the Patriots/Texans game and go see what good teams do to man to man coverage.

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    I don't understand the no improvement of the OL since our first two picks this past draft were OL and really both DeCastro/Adam's rookie seasons were lost due to injury.....You can't judge those two yet.....Adams was starting to show signs until he was injured and DeCastro of course hasn't seen the field yet........Pouncey was taken in the first back in 2010 and Marcus Gilbert was drafted in the 2nd round in 2011.....That is four high draft picks spent on the OL since 2010.......It takes time for young players to develop.......

    I have issues with Tomlin myself but attempts have been made to improve the OL and hopefully these young players can stay healthy and develop..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCsteelersfan View Post
    That's why it's not worth responding to you. You pawn off your opinion as "factual." Just like "Luck is more talented than Roethlisberger" because you watched him play in college and you know.

    Your favorite channel is on. Go watch some coverage of the Patriots/Texans game and go see what good teams do to man to man coverage.
    no, those first 2 statements you made:
    1. No improvement to the offensive line in 6 seasons.
    2. No improvement to the secondary in 6 seasons.

    Those are factually false

    See facts are something that can be measured or proven. And there are ACTUAL numbers that represent Oline play and Secondary play. So if you take those numbers from 2008/2009 and compare them to 2011/2012 and state that their has been "NO Improvement"... that is FACTUALLY NOT TRUE.

    Your not much for facts, so I can see how this might come as a surprise to you

    Even if numbers and facts aren't really your thing... let's try this

    Hartwig to Pouncey
    Stapleton/Essex to Foster
    John Scott to Gilbert/Adams

    I mean, just on the surface you'd have to be a moron to claim we haven't improved the oline

    2009 - 50 sacks against
    2011 - 42 sacks against

    That's a difference of a half a sack per game... That's just ONE stat.
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    Tomlin is not a good fit for this team. But keep Tomlin if we're going to re-build since the defense is getting old.

    I don't see Tomlin getting another contract..
    "HAIL TO PITT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCsteelersfan View Post
    Five reasons to fire Tomlin:
    2. No improvement to the secondary in 6 seasons.
    2009 16th against the pass - 6.9 YPA
    2010 12th against the pass - 6.3 YPA
    2011 1st against the pass - 5.6 YPA
    2012 1st against the pass - 5.7 YPA

    I mean... come on

    Is that like your thing here? You spew a bunch of nonsense, and no one ever calls you on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    no, those first 2 statements you made:
    1. No improvement to the offensive line in 6 seasons.
    2. No improvement to the secondary in 6 seasons.

    Those are factually false

    See facts are something that can be measured or proven. And there are ACTUAL numbers that represent Oline play and Secondary play. So if you take those numbers from 2008/2009 and compare them to 2011/2012 and state that their has been "NO Improvement"... that is FACTUALLY NOT TRUE.

    Your not much for facts, so I can see how this might come as a surprise to you

    Even if numbers and facts aren't really your thing... let's try this

    Hartwig to Pouncey
    Stapleton/Essex to Foster
    John Scott to Gilbert/Adams

    I mean, just on the surface you'd have to be a moron to claim we haven't improved the oline

    2009 - 50 sacks against
    2011 - 42 sacks against

    That's a difference of a half a sack per game... That's just ONE stat.
    Hartwig, Stapleton, Essux, Jon Scott.........just terrible......terrible........

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    Tomlin also lost to the 1) Raiders 2) chargers 3) Browns....etc.

    Are people saying he's gonna win three in a row now. Yep. Limp to the playoffs and loose! Yay!
    "HAIL TO PITT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelchamp204 View Post
    Why would you want him fired to begin with? Let me guees, O well, he isn't doing so hot without Cowhers players skit.
    We lost to the Raiders, Browns, Titans and Chargers. That's not an accident that's a problem. Even the players are starting to sound off about not being prepared. How do you beat the Ravens one week and not be prepared at home to play the lowly Chargers with the playoffs on the line? This is a coach that has lost his players and it is starting to show. You can only spew so many gay cliche's throughout the season before the team starts thinking this guy is a jackoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    2009 16th against the pass - 6.9 YPA
    2010 12th against the pass - 6.3 YPA
    2011 1st against the pass - 5.6 YPA
    2012 1st against the pass - 5.7 YPA

    I mean... come on

    Is that like your thing here? You spew a bunch of nonsense, and no one ever calls you on it?
    Thank you Lebeau for not letting Tomlin anywhere near the secondary. If Tomlin was that good coaching the secondary the Vikings wouldn't have had a 31st ranked pass defense before he left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana View Post
    Only lost 9 games to below 500 teams
    That's not accurate. I am sure we've lost to teams that were below .500 when we played them but ended the season at 8-8 or above.

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