What's Tomlin's record without Roethlisberger? Off the top of my head I'm going with 4-4?
I think your statement would apply to most teams... I mean, Brady played average or poorly and the Patriots lost 2 super bowls. Peyton played "average or poorly" vs new orleans... they lose the super bowl
Last edited by NeilPatrickBanana; 12-10-2012 at 08:11 PM.
If Ben had a solid OC for his entire career he could potentially be talked about as the best ever.
His stats are great as it is and this is his first year with an OC who "may" have a clue. No QB in the history of the game has been better at doing what it takes to win. Failing to see this would be hard work.
Luck may end up better than Roethlisberger, who knows? But saying he's better now is absolutely foolish (and I'm a big fan of Andrew Luck).
Better? Not yet... but very very soon, yes Luck will be better.
Ben is a great QB. One of the best (top 5) of his era. But the "Best all time at doing what it takes to win?"... Sorry, that's a bit too arbitrary a comment for me. What makes Ben better then Peyton at doing what it takes to win. Usually, it takes scoring more points, and Ben has never been a prolific offense force...
What Luck is doing in Arians offense...as a rookie, vs what Ben did with experience in that offense... it's not even close. The Colts have a top 10 passing attack...
The Colts are scoring 22.5 pts per game with a rookie QB in Arians offense
The Steelers scored 20.3 pts per game with a veteran franchise QB in Arians offense last year
You do understand the difference between talent and production right?
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