WHAT NEW STEELER

**Koopa** · 01-28-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by TOP GUN

Ben reminds me of Terry Bradshaw in some ways. Terry was a gunslinger, took chances, hung his WR's out for the kill at times...but never lacked in confidence, heart, or toughness. Im not saying Ben is on Terry's level yet by any means but he could be when it's all said and done if things work out.

well never lacked in confidence doesn't fit ben at all, he lacked it all year, that's why he was a bitch falling all the time and being afraid to run............and i wouldn't want a bradshaw type player now, bradshaw wouldn't even be on a team if he in this era............

i can't answer the question though i was born in 85

**BlackGold4vr** · 01-28-2007, 05:27 PM

Both of these guys incredibly strong! Kolb competed in strong man contests after he retired from football. He was a horse just like Faneca.

**BB2W** · 01-28-2007, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by BlackGold4vr

Jeff Hartings has been a decent center but he doesn't hold a candle to Mike Webster or Dermotti Dawson who were the centers by which all other will forever be judged. Those guys had hotel suites reserved in Hawaii every year! Webster played in 9 pro bowls and Dermotti Dawson played in 7. Hartings has played in 2. I realize that pro bowls are a result of team play and are not all individual achievements. With that being said the offensive lines that included Webster and Dawson were more dominating O-lines IMO.

I didn't say his number of Pro-Bowl appearances or skill level reminded me of some of the great Steelers centers in the past.

I was talking about his toughness and his ability to play through pain and strap it up every Sunday.

**BlackGold4vr** · 01-28-2007, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Koopa

well never lacked in confidence doesn't fit ben at all, he lacked it all year, that's why he was a bitch falling all the time and being afraid to run............and i wouldn't want a bradshaw type player now, bradshaw wouldn't even be on a team if he in this era............

i can't answer the question though i was born in 85

Koopa......That last statement is soooooo not true! Bradshaw was a great QB and I am sorry you didn't get to watch him play. The man had a CANNON for an arm and was a 2 time Superbowl MVP. He is in the Pro Football HOF and he led the Black & Gold to 4 championships! He was a clutch player who played his best when it counted (just ask the Raiders or the Cowboys). I always thought that Terry reminded me of John Elway (same build and same strong arm). To say he wouldn't even be on a team if he played in todays game is just not a true statement! Terry is one of the main reasons coaching legend John Madden retired with only 1 championship! He is part of the reason the Steelers are considered one of the best franchises EVER!

Koopa......please don't bash the ICONS!

**BlitzburghRockCity** · 01-28-2007, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Koopa

well never lacked in confidence doesn't fit ben at all, he lacked it all year, that's why he was a bitch falling all the time and being afraid to run............and i wouldn't want a bradshaw type player now, bradshaw wouldn't even be on a team if he in this era............

i can't answer the question though i was born in 85

The toughness and attitude and talent of Bradshaw is something I would want in any of today's QB's. He wasn't afraid to take a hit and stood in the pocket till the WR got open; all be it sometimes too long but you can accuse any QB of that at times but the point is..Ben's confidence did waiver a bit during the season but he always got out there and kept fighting and you have to admire that attitude; he just didn't execute all the time properly because he was either running for his life or getting hit all the time, lost alot of playing time in the offseason, any number of factors we all know of. I'll take a Bradshaw type QB any day !

**Koopa** · 01-28-2007, 05:53 PM

didn't he only have 2 more td's then he had int's for his career??? those kind of numbers would not keep you in the league....... that era can't compete with anyone now a days, the ppl now a days are just as strong but WAY faster.... the way bradshaw threw picks back in the 70s he be favre of last year every year pick city

**BlitzburghNation** · 01-28-2007, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Koopa

well never lacked in confidence doesn't fit ben at all, he lacked it all year, that's why he was a bitch falling all the time and being afraid to run............and i wouldn't want a bradshaw type player now, bradshaw wouldn't even be on a team if he in this era............

i can't answer the question though i was born in 85

Say crap like that about a player you havent even watched play !
He had a cannon for an arm & he's a steeler legend

He also took massive hit's back in the day & would get back up and continue playing,,,,,,,,,,,You should be commenting about 2-days QB's and there beloved SLIDE and how Defenses can't touch a QB without drawing a 15 yard penalty,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

**Koopa** · 01-28-2007, 06:14 PM

well i'm not knocking what he did back in the 70s.....but if that bradshaw came into the league now he wouldn't even be a practice squad member, he's stats in the 70s are that impressive, and now a days, the players are just as strong or stronger and much much much faster....... he'd throw at least 5 picks a game

**BlitzburghNation** · 01-28-2007, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Koopa

well i'm not knocking what he did back in the 70s.....but if that bradshaw came into the league now he wouldn't even be a practice squad member, he's stats in the 70s are that impressive, and now a days, the players are just as strong or stronger and much much much faster....... he'd throw at least 5 picks a game

Trying to get a rise out of us older steeler faithful

Not gonna

But TRUE STEELER FAN'S don't put down steeler players, especially one's that won 4 superbowls

This thread was meant to compare old players with new players

**TEEMONT** · 01-28-2007, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Koopa

well i'm not knocking what he did back in the 70s.....but if that bradshaw came into the league now he wouldn't even be a practice squad member, he's stats in the 70s are that impressive, and now a days, the players are just as strong or stronger and much much much faster....... he'd throw at least 5 picks a game

You are waaay off on this one dude. There are TONS of QB's in the league (starters at that) who wouldn't have even been good enough to be Bradshaws back-up. With your asinine comment you are pretty much stating that the likes of Charlie Btach, Ben, Daunte Culpepper, and Eli Manning are better than Bradshaw was. The old Steel Curtain might not hold up well in todays game, but QB is not a position that has really changed much in 30-40 years.