Penn St fined $60M, wins vacated from '98-11

**steelersbabex25** · 07-24-2012, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by jpele

And therein lies the problem, not one single person responsible for the coverup will suffer from the sanctions. Sandusky is in prison, Paterno is dead the other two are fired from their positions the only people suffering are the students.

Again I say, there are obviously issues in a program where you turn the other cheek to multiple cases of child abuse. The football program at Penn State had to be punished, and they were. A well deserved punishment IMO.

**LarryNJ** · 07-24-2012, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by RIVERS OF STEEL

I think I am going to start following Rugby, Aussie Rules. If it's worth a shitt I'll let you know.

Rugby is a great sport to follow...Aussie rules football I can't comment on.

Those of you who feel it's an unjust punishment, would you feel the same way if one of the boys was your son?

**jpele** · 07-25-2012, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by LarryNJ

Rugby is a great sport to follow...Aussie rules football I can't comment on.

Those of you who feel it's an unjust punishment, would you feel the same way if one of the boys was your son?

Yes, I'd want the people responsible punished not some damn football team. Explain how to me how these sanctions affect the guilty persons. I can agree with the fines levied against Penn St. But not against some kids that absolutly nothing to do with the crime.

So you're ok with you being put on Megans list if it was found out that the previous owner of your home was a child molester and your neighbors covered it up ? After all you had nothing to do with it same as the football team had nothing to do with it.

**greennick** · 07-25-2012, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by RIVERS OF STEEL

I think I am going to start following Rugby, Aussie Rules. If it's worth a shitt I'll let you know.

Aussie Rules is a great sport, but is being made progressively softer by the same desire to protect the head and stop concussions as we're seeing in the NFL.

If you're looking for a team to support, I recommend the West Coast Eagles from my hometown of Perth, Western Australia.

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**greennick** · 07-25-2012, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by steelersbabex25

Oh, he only knew about one case? I get why he didn't speak up now..

Everyone that knew about it royally ****ed up by not saying anything, and now they're paying for it. Simple as that. The second that you put your public image ahead of the lives of so many people is the second that you lose my respect, and should lose everyone's respect.

I'm just saying it wasn't necessarily a huge cover up from his end, just a pretty monumental **** up in not doing more. It was accepted in the report that he did tell the administration. How was Jo to know they knew of more?

I have no connection to Penn State. I just feel for all the new victims created as a result of this, that is the current students and those that now never had a college win.

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**LarryNJ** · 07-26-2012, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by jpele

Yes, I'd want the people responsible punished not some damn football team. Explain how to me how these sanctions affect the guilty persons. I can agree with the fines levied against Penn St. But not against some kids that absolutly nothing to do with the crime.

So you're ok with you being put on Megans list if it was found out that the previous owner of your home was a child molester and your neighbors covered it up ? After all you had nothing to do with it same as the football team had nothing to do with it.

Are you serious with the Megans list analogy? The entire problem started because of attitudes that the "Football team" must be protected. Now you still want to protect them. The guys responsible for the heinous crimes did it because they were trying to protect the football team...of course the friggin football team should be punished. It was child rape that occurred time and time again. Had Paterno and his crew did the right thing the many kids would have been spared Sandusky. As far as the kids on the current team, transfer it's as simple as that. There are 100's of schools that would love to have them on their team.

Originally Posted by greennick

Aussie Rules is a great sport, but is being made progressively softer by the same desire to protect the head and stop concussions as we're seeing in the NFL.

If you're looking for a team to support, I recommend the West Coast Eagles from my hometown of Perth, Western Australia.

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I actually follow the Western Force from Perth!

**steelersbabex25** · 07-26-2012, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by LarryNJ

Are you serious with the Megans list analogy? The entire problem started because of attitudes that the "Football team" must be protected. Now you still want to protect them. The guys responsible for the heinous crimes did it because they were trying to protect the football team...of course the friggin football team should be punished. It was child rape that occurred time and time again. Had Paterno and his crew did the right thing the many kids would have been spared Sandusky. As far as the kids on the current team, transfer it's as simple as that. There are 100's of schools that would love to have them on their team.

Agree whole heatedly with what you're saying, but it isn't so easy to transfer. I have some friends who work in the admissions department at UMD, and they've been getting calls from a bunch of the Penn State players and a ton of the students at Penn State asking UMD to extend the transfer deadline so they can get out of Penn State, but we can't. It's sad.

**jpele** · 07-26-2012, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by LarryNJ

Are you serious with the Megans list analogy? The entire problem started because of attitudes that the "Football team" must be protected. Now you still want to protect them. The guys responsible for the heinous crimes did it because they were trying to protect the football team...of course the friggin football team should be punished. It was child rape that occurred time and time again. Had Paterno and his crew did the right thing the many kids would have been spared Sandusky. As far as the kids on the current team, transfer it's as simple as that. There are 100's of schools that would love to have them on their team.

I actually follow the Western Force from Perth!

So the bottom line is, as long as the football team is punished you could care less that nothing is being done to the criminals.

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**lloydfan4life** · 07-26-2012, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by jpele

So the bottom line is, as long as the football team is punished you could care less that nothing is being done to the criminals.

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Wow.... that's a pretty huge leap from what he actually said, don't ya think?

**jpele** · 07-26-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by lloydfan4life

Wow.... that's a pretty huge leap from what he actually said, don't ya think?

No I don't , he states outright the team needs to be punished . I'll ask once again how do these sanctions punish the guilty persons? The fine will benifit future victims and nothing else.

Why aren't they demanding that every trustee step down and take away the pensions of everyone connected to this mess. The joke that is the ncaa didn't even investigate the situation they took the word of someone else.