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    Harrison's Hit and The Whining That Ensues...

    OMG! Here is the link to profootballtalk.com's article about why this is a gray area kind of play. Just go to the comments and read what these idiots say. For the record, it was helmet-to-helmet and James knows it. With that said, I didn't think he was intending to hurt McCoy.

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    Let me guess, most of them are Browns fans? The same people jumping up and down when Ben got hurt.
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    What about the puss that went low on Ben after he came back?

    A lot of talk saying it'll be a 1 game suspension...

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    This is just going to be part of the game for Harrison now. If he makes a hit that looks hard, late or high, then he is going to get fined. He is a marked man and that's how it goes. That was definitely a helmet to helmet hit, so he'll hear from the league. I wouldn't be shocked to see a one game suspension, but anymore than that and I would be pissed.

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    Yes it was helmet to helmet and yes James will get a hefty fine and probably a suspension. The thing that kills me about all this and the media and other fans won't discuss, is, after that hit McCoy took, why was he out there after only 2 plays? It's obvious he got his bell rung pretty hard and he had to have had concussion like symptoms, why was he allowed to go back in? During the press conference after the game, the media was asked to turn off their camera lights when McCoy was answering questions. There should be bigger outrage at the Cleveland coaching staff in how they handled McCoys safety and health.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DIESELMAN View Post
    Yes it was helmet to helmet and yes James will get a hefty fine and probably a suspension. The thing that kills me about all this and the media and other fans won't discuss, is, after that hit McCoy took, why was he out there after only 2 plays? It's obvious he got his bell rung pretty hard and he had to have had concussion like symptoms, why was he allowed to go back in? During the press conference after the game, the media was asked to turn off their camera lights when McCoy was answering questions. There should be bigger outrage at the Cleveland coaching staff in how they handled McCoys safety and health.


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    True. After Polamalu gets taken out of a game I see reports all over about the Steelers hiding behind concussion like symptoms and stingers, but the Browns let McCoy back out and there's nothing. Okay.

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    In the aftermath of the Cleveland Browns' Thursday night loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, much of the postgame talk in the visiting locker room did not center on the game's outcome, but instead, the vicious fourth-quarter helmet-to-helmet hit Steelers linebacker James Harrison administered to quarterback Colt McCoy.

    McCoy, who returned two plays after going down, told reporters that he did not remember the hit. According to McCoy's dad, however, the second-year quarterback's mental state was far worse than he originally let on.

    "I talked to Colt this morning and he said, 'Dad, I don't know what happened, but I know I lost the game. I know I let the team down. What happened?' " Brad McCoy told The Plain Dealer on Friday.




    Brad, who coached his son throughout junior high and high school, then went on to blast the Browns organization for allowing Colt McCoy to return to the game. Browns coach Pat Shurmur told reporters during his postgame press conference that McCoy was "fine to go back in," with which Brad also took offense.

    "He never should've gone back in the game," Brad told the paper. "He was basically out (cold) after the hit. You could tell by the rigidity of his body as he was laying there. There were a lot of easy symptoms that should've told them he had a concussion. He was nauseated and he didn't know who he was. From what I could see, they didn't test him for a concussion on the sidelines. They looked at his (left) hand."

    Brad then pointed out the brief nature of Colt's postgame press conference.

    "After the game, the (public relations staff) made sure Colt's interview was brief and he couldn't face the lights in his press conference,'' said Brad. "The TV lights and the Stadium lights were killing him. Why would you say he was fine? That makes it even worse."

    He later added: "Josh Cribbs suffered a groin injury earlier in the game and he was out for the rest of the game. ... Colt takes a severe hit like that and he's back in the game a play later? If he took another blow to the head, we could've been talking about his career here."

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    James will be fined, everyone can probably agree with that. Watch the video again, and just before Colt flips the ball he has it tucked in like he's going to run with it. That signals James that he is a runner and you can hit him differently than what you would if he were in the pocket. The hit was NOT late, and Colt was not defenseless.

    However one rule says that the QB is still defenseless right before or right after he throws it. However the gray area comes in when he's out of the pocket. This is a split second league where you decide what you're doing and you go for it. James felt he could hit him so he did. It wasn't dirty, he wasn't trying to hurt McCoy, it's part of the game.

    Yes he was leading with his helmet and his helmet hit McCoy's helmet, so in that case you ahead and fine him based on the rule. However, the gray area as I mentioned is what will keep Harrison from being suspended. People want to make James the poster boy for dirty play. Why in the world does nobody take into account that this type of play happens every single week in the NFL. The league fines players from other teams besides the Steelers. Stop trying to make this only about Harrison when it's clearly a league full of players who don't know what they can and cannot hit or when they can hit that person.

    You can only legislate the game so far before it becomes micro managed and ridiculous. The fact is, the NFL wants all the soccer mom's and over protective parents to not worry about their kids playing football as a career. They want to make their game as pretty, nice, and less violent as they can. Players know better what's involved with an NFL career; they aren't stupid. It's a violent sport, let it be played that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LatrobePA View Post
    In the aftermath of the Cleveland Browns' Thursday night loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, much of the postgame talk in the visiting locker room did not center on the game's outcome, but instead, the vicious fourth-quarter helmet-to-helmet hit Steelers linebacker James Harrison administered to quarterback Colt McCoy.

    McCoy, who returned two plays after going down, told reporters that he did not remember the hit. According to McCoy's dad, however, the second-year quarterback's mental state was far worse than he originally let on.

    "I talked to Colt this morning and he said, 'Dad, I don't know what happened, but I know I lost the game. I know I let the team down. What happened?' " Brad McCoy told The Plain Dealer on Friday.




    Brad, who coached his son throughout junior high and high school, then went on to blast the Browns organization for allowing Colt McCoy to return to the game. Browns coach Pat Shurmur told reporters during his postgame press conference that McCoy was "fine to go back in," with which Brad also took offense.

    "He never should've gone back in the game," Brad told the paper. "He was basically out (cold) after the hit. You could tell by the rigidity of his body as he was laying there. There were a lot of easy symptoms that should've told them he had a concussion. He was nauseated and he didn't know who he was. From what I could see, they didn't test him for a concussion on the sidelines. They looked at his (left) hand."

    Brad then pointed out the brief nature of Colt's postgame press conference.

    "After the game, the (public relations staff) made sure Colt's interview was brief and he couldn't face the lights in his press conference,'' said Brad. "The TV lights and the Stadium lights were killing him. Why would you say he was fine? That makes it even worse."

    He later added: "Josh Cribbs suffered a groin injury earlier in the game and he was out for the rest of the game. ... Colt takes a severe hit like that and he's back in the game a play later? If he took another blow to the head, we could've been talking about his career here."
    I just heard this on ESPN radio on my way in to work. Like I said earlier, the media won't be making a big deal out of this like they should and the league won't look into it like they should (considering they are all about player safety ). I'm just happy our coaching staff truly cares about our players, it shows in every game.


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    don't even get me started on this. i am so annoyed listening to the tampon bitch fest coming from all these cleveland fans and even BALTIMORE FANS. ratbird douches calling for him to be suspended. yet when ray ray does the same thing to hines when hines is, by nfl rules, a DEFENSELESS RECEIVER, they applaud it. and we all know ray ray is a repeat offender. flagged and fined for 2 helmet to helmet hits in 09, against ocho and austin collie.

    if james gets suspended for being a "repeat offender" i just may have to make a comparison video and send it to all the networks and the nfl. illl make 10 accounts if i have to. im sick of this commissioner ruining football. colt was a runner at that point and if you watch that at full speed, what the hell was james supposed to do? hesitate and let mccoy get around him for a first down? and sad to say, deion effing sanders who i HATE was the only dipshit from nfl network that had any goddamn common sense last night.......

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