Getting handed these jobs is like getting to hold the last donut at a weight watchers meeting. Dangerous and shortlived! Its like being handed a bagfull of sh*t and being told to make it smell nice! Can't be done! The losing tradition with both of these teams trickles down from the owners! Each year I watch as the other teams pick over our Pirates like vulture over a roadkill looking for anything worth taking! How can you ever build a team that way? How can you complain about attendance when you put a bad product on the field every year? Remember when promises were made about what the new stadium would do for the Pirates? We'll be able to compete with the larger market teams with revenues generated from the luxury boxes......yeah right! What a crock of sh*t! Now we just have one of the worst teams in one of the nicest ballparks! Nothing changed!