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    Offense getting too greedy now

    I think Bruce Arians used up his allotment of home run plays in the 1st half. The offensive line was controlling the line of scrimmage, Ben was on target, Heath was making plays, Rashard had a big first half and then everything went to sleep. Arians got way too greedy late in the 2nd half with the long passes and the Steelers were unable to sustain any offense for the rest of the game.

    Balance was the name of the game in the first half. Rashard Mendenhall had over 100 yds in the first 2 quarters, Ben was nearing 200 yds through the air as well. I liked the killer instinct that the team had heading into the second half, however the execution was terrible on offense especially.

    When you go deep so often you open yourselves up to problems if you don't convert. The Jags defense knew that Ben was looking deep to Wallace and company so they didn't have to respect the short passing game. They could bring the pass rush and crash the line of scrimmage, which is exactly what happened in the 2nd half. The Steelers were then unable to run the ball with any consistency late in the game because the Jaguars already had a beat on getting into the backfield. When you make yourself so predictable going deep and then try to dial it back, it never works.
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    I totally agree. They kept going for too many big plays and left the run game behind too often
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    No question BRC. Everyone likes the home run ball, but when singles and doubles are getting the job done, you stick with it. I put this issue squarely on Ben and BA. Greedy indeed.


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    I disagree. I think it was, my quote from another post:

    I think the pendulum swung after Legursky got hurt. A blocked punt, a crappy punt, a Ben fumble, more penalties. I think it was a comedy of errors after the injury. If it was not one issue it was another. I am simply dumbfounded . . . .

    In addition, I think it was execution. No plays were working. We could get zero going. If you can run a simple play, you can't set up bigger plays.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzburghRockCity View Post
    I think Bruce Arians used up his allotment of home run plays in the 1st half. The offensive line was controlling the line of scrimmage, Ben was on target, Heath was making plays, Rashard had a big first half and then everything went to sleep. Arians got way too greedy late in the 2nd half and into the 4th quarter before they finally started to try and run the ball alittle more.

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    I agree...but Ben was on target? Sorry, Ben was not on target. This one can't be blamed on the offensive line. Offensive line was unreal today, for the most part. That had a few botched plays but he had 3+ seconds to throw on almost every snap, and again he was overthrowing receivers all day. Yes, to Mike Wallace you can air it out and almost everytime he'll make the catch, but realize who you're throwing to Ben. Sanders and Brown aren't as fast. How many times did he overthrow them when they had a step or 2 on the defender? 4? 5? Not to mention the overthrow to Brown in the endzone. That was awful.

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    When you go almost exclusively to the pass, it's hard to turn it back on with the run. The Jags began to expect the long ball nearly every time Ben dropped back. This offense has to remain disciplined and balanced. You can't get caught up in the long ball all the time. That's how the Raiders ran their offense for years and look where it got them.

    I agree that things broke down on offense and you can't take anything away from the Jags. The problem is as soon as you see the offense starting to "find it's stride" they take another step in the wrong direction.

    The Jags outgained the Steelers on offense in the 2nd half, 141 yds to 55 yds.

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    agreed, too many shots downfield. Not sure why Ben constsntly force feeds Wallace the ball.

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    BRC...100% on the money. the game film will say it all. when we ran these plays, we were dominating....when we ran these plays, we let them back in the game.

    296 yards in the first half...50 in the second. when we don't play BA ball, i.e. short passes, straight ahead running, we put up yards and points. when we play BA ball, we chuck it deep with nothing to set it up, we abandon the run and the short passing game...we get no where and score nothing!

    We know what works with this team...we showed it last week and in the 1st half this week...then bruce pulled a bruce and did his thing.
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    BRC you are right on the money. As well executed as a deep ball looks it somewhat luck to. We threw deep to much, we had a lead get the have long drives kill the clock. And dont send sanders deep, it seems that eveytime Ben throws to Sanders deep he is expecting Wallace and Brown type speed


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    It looked as though the wind was really rough on those deep throws which makes you wonder why they kept throwing it deep. Sure, Ben had people open down there but he was unable to deliver it all game long. I'm not exactly a fan of a west-coast offense though we have a pretty decent personal for slants, screens and whatnot... Why not use it? And by use it I do not mean throwing a bubblescreen to Hines Ward even though it actually gave positive yards today.
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