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    Run First or Pass First?

    This was a pretty easy question in past years if you are a Steeler fan. You establish the run and use that set up the passing game. Rollouts and play action especially all benefit from getting the ground game going early and often. It slows down the pass rush and keeps the defense honest. Making them commit more guys to the box opens up everything down field.

    That's all well and good, but for the "new" Steelers, times have changed. Atleast in my opinion. There's nothing wrong with using the pass to setup the run now. That's provided you have an offensive line that can block with a damn. Anyways, with the multitude of weapons that Big Ben has at his disposal there's no reason to not throw the ball.

    Come out of the gate, get Ben on the move with designed roll outs, boot legs, short drops and quick passes to get into the flow of the game. You still slow down the pass rush, by using the short passing game as a "second running game". We all know the hated Patriots do this very well.

    Once you get Ben into the flow of the game, the WR's start making plays, the defense starts putting more people back to defend the pass and suddenly you've got lanes all over the place for Mendenhall and Redman to run.

    The Steelers however choose to ram their heads into a wall though and have Ben drop back, have some dinner, call his wife, send out a few texts, and then maybe release the ball! The tunnel vision mindset of this team is killing the QB and hampering the offense.

    There's nothing wrong with throwing the ball first, just do it the right way.

    There's an article in the PG that talks alittle about this too.
    Call this a Catch 22 that depends on a Run 22, a delicate balance in which success in one can produce more success in the other or failure can yield failure.

    The NFL has become a passing league for reasons Bruce Arians, the Steelers offensive coordinator, will explain. He believes the Steelers will go along with it, that their passing attack right now must "carry" them. Before they can unleash the power that starts with Ben Roethlisberger's right arm, however, they must first show they can do more than grind out 3.3 yards per carry when they run, and therein lies the dilemma, or maybe a solution to what ails the Steelers offense.

    "I usually script five home runs a game," Arians said of throwing the deep ball. "I don't like coming home with any of them not being called. That's something we just love to do, we like to throw the ball deep."

    But they cannot do that if they keep coming up short on the run. They need that threat to bring one safety closer to the line and open those deep passing lanes.

    "I'd like to run the ball a whole lot better so that we can use that play-action because it's hard to drop back and throw it deep," Arians said. "If you get play-action and your running game is working, you can get it deep because then you can eliminate some safety play. We better run the ball better to get it deep."

    The question is how?

    The answer has not surfaced in their first three games. The Steelers average 85.7 yards per game rushing. Rashard Mendenhall, Arians' lead dog, has 148 yards and a 3.0-yard average per carry.

    And Sunday in Houston against a rampaging defense, it looks as though the Steelers will insert two more starters in a line that has seen more changes than a Macy's dressing room.

    "It's a guy here or there," said Arians, explaining the ground game's problems.

    "It's not a major concern right now. We're still young, we're still shifting around, getting to know what these new guys can do. It's one of those things where the passing game is going to have to carry us a little bit more than the running game, but we have to get it going."

    As for it being easier to pass in a year in which records are falling through the air everywhere, Arians said it is natural.

    "Ain't no doubt, because of the rule changes. It's harder to run the football than it used to be. People have gone back to a lot of eight-man fronts and a lot of stunts and blitzing to blow runs up. So, it's a lot easier to throw the football right now.

    "And I think with the lockout, it's much easier to throw it than it is to run it. I think most people would think it's easier the other way, but guys can throw and catch in shorts all the time. It takes some time to grind out that running game and now, with only one day a week in pads, it even slows the process down."
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    I think the Texans were giving up an average of 4.8 yards per touch last week. If so that means we'll come out slinging it!

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    Give it to Redman, he doesnt dance in the backfield and get happy feet before he take 3 full steps. Idc whose in, run the ball baby,work the clock. Then set up the pass.

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    I say first pass of the first drive have Ben throw a 40yrd bomb to a wide open Wallace for the TD

    Gut punch the Texans right off the bat!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaSteelGirl View Post
    I say first pass of the first drive have Ben throw a 40yrd bomb to a wide open Wallace for the TD

    Gut punch the Texans right off the bat!
    Yea then we will be flat for the rest of the game Hence the Colts game haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelchamp204 View Post
    Yea then we will be flat for the rest of the game Hence the Colts game haha
    Damn, it's Friday last day of the work week and you're still salty?? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LatrobePA View Post
    Damn, it's Friday last day of the work week and you're still salty?? lol
    Ugh, yea man. I just read an article about BA and the offensive line issues lol. I think we should just work on getting a rythm at the beggining of the game and then try and make some big plays. Instead of making a big play and not finding ANY kind of rythym. Plus I work weekends . Always have since I got out of highschool and im 23 now lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelchamp204 View Post
    Yea then we will be flat for the rest of the game Hence the Colts game haha
    You're killing me here....


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    IMO, the way to win is still rushing and defense. Controlling the clock, keeping the other team's offense off the field and beating them up when they are on the field. That's the ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolrog View Post
    IMO, the way to win is still rushing and defense. Controlling the clock, keeping the other team's offense off the field and beating them up when they are on the field. That's the ticket.
    Yea I used to be a big dousche back in the day when we RAN,RAN PASS but thats when I was impatient and in high school. Now I understand though the way to beat a great passing team is to control the clock and keep that offense off the field. I think espn and all the experts are drinking the 45 points a game koolaid and say its the new thing because look at how many possesions both teams get in the game. If you have a strong run game like we used to and great defense then we can will alot of games cause of time of possesion. Everyone is just in love with this quick high octane offense now cause of Brady doing it for so many year and nowe Brees,Rodgers,Manning and rivers. But if you limit those great qbs to low possesions a game how will they beat you if they only get a cpl tds and maybe a field goal? Its all about TOP

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