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    Arrow Statistical comparison of all 11 QBs with three or more Super Bowl starts

    RANKINGS BY CATEGORY

    Passer rating

    124.4 - Joe Montana
    112.8 - Terry Bradshaw
    111.9 - Troy Aikman
    96.7 - Kurt Warner
    95.4 - Roger Staubach
    94.5 - Tom Brady
    72.7 - Bob Griese
    69.9 - Ben Roethlisberger
    62.0 - John Elway
    57.1 - Jim Kelly
    43.7 - Fran Tarkenton

    Passing yards per game

    385.3 - Kurt Warner
    260.5 - Joe Montana
    258.5 - Jim Kelly
    250.3 - Tom Brady
    239.8 - John Elway
    233.0 - Terry Bradshaw
    229.7 - Troy Aikman
    214.0 - Ben Roethlisberger
    183.5 - Roger Staubach
    163.0 - Fran Tarkenton
    98.3 - Bob Griese

    Yards per attempt

    11.1 - Terry Bradshaw
    8.8 - Kurt Warner
    8.6 - Troy Aikman
    8.5 - Joe Montana
    7.6 - John Elway
    7.5 - Roger Staubach
    7.2 - Bob Griese
    7.1 - Ben Roethlisberger
    6.4 - Tom Brady
    5.8 - Jim Kelly
    5.5 - Fran Tarkenton

    Completion percentage

    70.0% - Troy Aikman
    68.0% - Joe Montana
    64.1% - Tom Brady
    63.4% - Bob Griese
    62.9% - Kurt Warner
    62.2% - Roger Staubach
    60.4% - Ben Roethlisberger
    58.3% - Terry Bradshaw
    56.5% - Jim Kelly
    51.7% - Fran Tarkenton
    51.6% - John Elway

    TD percentage

    10.7% - Terry Bradshaw
    9.0% - Joe Montana
    8.2% - Roger Staubach
    6.3% - Troy Aikman
    4.5% - Kurt Warner*
    4.5% - Tom Brady*
    3.3% - Ben Roethlisberger
    2.4% - Bob Griese
    1.9% - John Elway
    1.7% - Jim Kelly
    1.1% - Fran Tarkenton

    INT percentage

    0.0% - Joe Montana
    0.6% - Tom Brady
    1.3% - Troy Aikman
    2.3% - Kurt Warner
    4.1% - Roger Staubach
    4.8% - Terry Bradshaw
    4.9% - Bob Griese
    5.1% - Jim Kelly*
    5.1% - John Elway*
    5.5% - Ben Roethlisberger
    6.7% - Fran Tarkenton

    TD/INT ratio

    ∞ - Joe Montana
    7.0 - Tom Brady
    5.0 - Troy Aikman
    2.3 - Terry Bradshaw
    2.0 - Roger Staubach
    2.0 - Kurt Warner
    0.6 - Ben Roethlisberger
    0.5 - Bob Griese
    0.4 - John Elway
    0.3 - Jim Kelly
    0.2 - Fran Tarkenton

    Raw categorical average

    1.9 - Joe Montana
    3.4 - Troy Aikman
    3.7 - Kurt Warner
    4.0 - Terry Bradshaw
    4.6 - Tom Brady
    5.6 - Roger Staubach
    7.4 - Bob Griese
    7.9 - Ben Roethlisberger
    8.1 - John Elway
    8.6 - Jim Kelly
    10.7 - Fran Tarkenton

    (*: Ties broken by further decimal points.)

    RANKINGS BY QB

    Troy Aikman

    3rd - Passer rating
    7th - Yards per game
    3rd - Yards per attempt
    1st - Completion percentage
    4th - TD percentage
    3rd - INT percentage
    3rd - TD/INT ratio
    2nd - Raw categorical average

    Terry Bradshaw

    2nd - Passer rating
    6th - Yards per game
    1st - Yards per attempt
    8th - Completion percentage
    1st - TD percentage
    6th - INT percentage
    4th - TD/INT ratio
    4th - Raw categorical average

    Tom Brady

    6th - Passer rating
    4th - Yards per game
    9th - Yards per attempt
    3rd - Completion percentage
    6th - TD percentage
    2nd - INT percentage
    2nd - TD/INT ratio
    5th - Raw categorical average

    John Elway

    9th - Passer rating
    5th - Yards per game
    5th - Yards per attempt
    11th - Completion percentage
    9th - TD percentage
    9th - INT percentage
    9th - TD/INT ratio
    9th - Raw categorical average

    Bob Griese

    7th - Passer rating
    11th - Yards per game
    7th - Yards per attempt
    4th - Completion percentage
    8th - TD percentage
    7th - INT percentage
    8th - TD/INT ratio
    7th - Raw categorical average

    Jim Kelly

    10th - Passer rating
    3rd - Yards per game
    10th - Yards per attempt
    9th - Completion percentage
    10th - TD percentage
    8th - INT percentage
    10th - TD/INT ratio
    10th - Raw categorical average

    Joe Montana

    1st - Passer rating
    2nd - Yards per game
    4th - Yards per attempt
    2nd - Completion percentage
    2nd - TD percentage
    1st - INT percentage
    1st - TD/INT ratio
    1st - Raw categorical average

    Ben Roethlisberger

    8th - Passer rating
    8th - Yards per game
    8th - Yards per attempt
    7th - Completion percentage
    7th - TD percentage
    10th - INT percentage
    7th - TD/INT ratio
    8th - Raw categorical average

    Roger Staubach

    5th - Passer rating
    9th - Yards per game
    6th - Yards per attempt
    6th - Completion percentage
    3rd - TD percentage
    5th - INT percentage
    T5th - TD/INT ratio
    6th - Raw categorical average

    Fran Tarkenton

    11th - Passer rating
    10th - Yards per game
    11th - Yards per attempt
    10th - Completion percentage
    11th - TD percentage
    11th - INT percentage
    11th - TD/INT ratio
    11th - Raw categorical average

    Kurt Warner

    4th - Passer rating
    1st - Yards per game
    2nd - Yards per attempt
    5th - Completion percentage
    5th - TD percentage
    4th - INT percentage
    T5th - TD/INT ratio
    3rd - Raw categorical average

    Of the 11 QBs listed...

    Seven are first-ballot Hall-of-Famers (Aikman, Bradshaw, Elway, Kelly, Montana, Staubach, Tarkenton).
    One is a Hall-of-Famer who wasn't inducted on the first ballot (Griese).
    One has been retired for less than five years (Warner).
    Two are still active (Brady, Roethlisberger).

    Discuss.
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    I'm surprised at a few things. Elways stats were so bad, Montana has 0 ints, and Aikman has a 70% completion percentage.

    I'm not surprised that Montana stats shows he was the best of the best, Fran Tarkenton sucked so bad, Bradshaws yards per catch and td's. I can still see him firing the ball down field. Or that Ben's stats suck, they are fresh in my mind.

    As for the HOF, Brady is in for sure I think Ben still has to win another before he is a lock, and Warner won't get in.
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    Kurt Warner will get in when he's older. His career reminds me a bit of Jim Plunkett's in that he had some teams give up on him, but his career stats are better than Plunkett's, which will be enough to get him in at some point.
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    Warner will get in eventhough they aren't supposed too look at off the field stuff Warner is squeeky clean and in general a good guy with the league problems they are going to want a good role model too parade up there and he fits the bill.

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    Ben will always be middle of the pack when it comes to stats; he's never going to win any passing titles or be a Fantasy top pick. He just wins games and wins a lot of them. With a team like ours that plays in so many tight games I'm glad we have a guy like him, who played just like Elway did. A never say die attitude, a gun slinger, and not afraid to take chances to make the play.

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    I'll pour the gas on the fire. Game manager who relies on his defense. Discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rampage View Post
    I'll pour the gas on the fire. Game manager who relies on his defense. Discuss.
    How can that not be Ben???? Although, managing the game is a bit of a tough thing to determine some times. Normally game managers are guys who either can't handle their own so they do just enough to not "lose" the game, or they are guys who are trained to do just enough to get the win and rely on the defense.

    I would say Ben is in the latter, by design of the Arians offense. As soon as we get a lead the foot goes off the gas and it's back to clock management and good defense. Occasionally we get tossed a bone where he'll pour it on, like the Carolina game last year for example but beyond that it's a "get the lead and then run the clock out" mind set.

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    These stats don't lie. They prove who the best of the best are when all the chips are on the line. Montana, Bradshaw & Aikman did everything that they needed to to win. Tarkenton and Kelly simply didn't get it done and the stats show that. Of course football is a team sport and the defense, running game and special teams play a big part in the final outcome.

    As for Ben we all love him but he's more towards the bottom of the pack than the middle. Especially in int's which we all know are killer in any game but worse in the the big games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryNJ View Post
    These stats don't lie. They prove who the best of the best are when all the chips are on the line. Montana, Bradshaw & Aikman did everything that they needed to to win. Tarkenton and Kelly simply didn't get it done and the stats show that. Of course football is a team sport and the defense, running game and special teams play a big part in the final outcome.

    As for Ben we all love him but he's more towards the bottom of the pack than the middle. Especially in int's which we all know are killer in any game but worse in the the big games.
    In fairness to Ben, take a look at the cause of his last three Super Bowl INTs:

    1. Tipped pass
    2. Hit as he threw
    3. Bobbled ball stolen by DB

    Those are more stellar defensive plays (and bad luck on Ben's part) than anything else.
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    Well obviously if he wouldn't of raped those women he'd have a perfect passer rating like Peyton Manning! *troll voice*


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