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    Quote Originally Posted by andyg1984 View Post
    that is complete BS .. owners are the ones who put the $ up .. they are already rich - they dont need players and could live off treasury bills if they wanted to lol ...

    bad players cannot impact financials ? def not true ..
    You're typing meaningless words.

    1. Where's the risk these owners are taking ? Give an example.

    2. Name me the player or players that caused an NFL team to lose money.

    You want to talk risk, there are 22 players on the field that are risking disabling injury on every snap of the football.

    Without the players there is no NFL or NFL owners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpele View Post
    You're typing meaningless words.

    1. Where's the risk these owners are taking ? Give an example.

    2. Name me the player or players that caused an NFL team to lose money.

    You want to talk risk, there are 22 players on the field that are risking disabling injury on every snap of the football.

    Without the players there is no NFL or NFL owners.
    Hey, the owners have taken many steps to protect QB's and WR's .. i mean players .. lol ..

    but they are supposed to be profitable, something should be very "profitable" if you are looking at that large of an investment .. the fact that 5-7 of them are doing it to themselves is one question, but the others could be more profitable - they are supposed to be filthy rich ..

    Are we talking about the same specific thing here? The players got a good deal last go-round and now they want even more.

    Players in the league who command inflated union-influenced salaries and perform even average can hurt a team ..the owners should not have to deal with a union in the first place like this .. the players are their employees... not business partners ..

    the players need to realize what the union is putting them at risk for... the owners are still rich without them ..
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    Really somebody sticking up for the owners....I love the socialist angle to...lol what a joke....Yea lets all support dirt bags like Jerry Jones, Daniel Snyder, Robert Kraft.........

    I don't support the owners on this and its the owners fault if a lockout happens.......Fans tune in each Sunday to watch the players not the owners......**** the owners and their greed.....Really I could careless if there is a lock out or not....I can find plenty of other things to do on my Sundays.......

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    I was for the owners until I found out the players were willing to take a 800 million dollar pay cut or 25 mill a team and the owners laughed at them. Now I realize it is just the greedy owners' fault if there is a lockout. That is why if there is a lockout, I will be done with football for a while. I will do all I can to make sure the owners loose money and dont try this crap again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyg1984 View Post

    The players got a good deal last go-round and now they want even more.

    Players in the league who command inflated union-influenced salaries and perform even average can hurt a team ..the owners should not have to deal with a union in the first place like this .. the players are their employees... not business partners ..

    the players need to realize what the union is putting them at risk for... the owners are still rich without them ..
    Its NOT the players who want more, its the owners. Its the owners who opted out of the CBA, NOT the players. Its the owners who want another 1 billion off the top of the 9 billion dollar mega pie, not the players. BUT since the owners so conveniently opted out, yeah, the players want concessions, and its not more money. The NFLPA has been the union for the NFL players since 1956, long before the NFL became this juggernaut of wealth and power.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black@Gold Forever32 View Post
    Really somebody sticking up for the owners....I love the socialist angle to...lol what a joke....Yea lets all support dirt bags like Jerry Jones, Daniel Snyder, Robert Kraft.........

    I don't support the owners on this and its the owners fault if a lockout happens.......Fans tune in each Sunday to watch the players not the owners......**** the owners and their greed.....Really I could careless if there is a lock out or not....I can find plenty of other things to do on my Sundays.......
    it is not exactly socialism to stick up for the rich

    I still believe the owners are in trouble. They are the ones who are going to loose tremendous amounts of money if they don't get a new deal. Its them who have the money invested, not the players.
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    Hey AndyG if they have a lockout maybe they will take some scrubs to keep their precious money coming in and since you think the players get paid too much anyways you will play for cheap right oh and without health and other benefits.

    Put yourself in their shoes don't hate on people because they have a union to protect them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazedby92 View Post
    Hey AndyG if they have a lockout maybe they will take some scrubs to keep their precious money coming in and since you think the players get paid too much anyways you will play for cheap right oh and without health and other benefits.
    Hines Ward was complaining about no health benefits. He made 5 million last year, I think they are kind of whiny about that. They could just be better money managers and save for illness. I am not saying they dont deserve it, but lets be honest. There is a difference between a single mom making 10 bucks an hour and no health benefits and Ward who makes 5 mil a year. In fact, I saw a tweet from Dave Ramsey that said 95% or so of all NFL players are either in bankruptcy or financial trouble two years after their last contract. So, they dont have a reputation for handling money well.

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    disclaimer to all : i was ****-tanked last night and am extremely biased against unions .. i think i went off-track there to say the least .. don't really rmbr typing that last one lol

    diesel, yes, it is the owners who opted out .. but the players got too good of a deal last time ..

    bgf32, like it or not demaurice smith has socialist tendencies - listen to his speeches... and what are you doing on sundays that is better than watching the steelers? lol

    blazed92, im not calling for the "replacements" and am not really sure where the remainder of that statement is derived from.. what has a union ever done to get you, as a consumer, something faster, cheaper or in larger proportion ? the answer is nothing and if anything these guys are just giving unions a worse name than they already deservedly have ..
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    What Have Unions Done?

    Quote Originally Posted by andyg1984 View Post
    disclaimer to all : i was ****-tanked last night and am extremely biased against unions ..

    ...what has a union ever done to get you, as a consumer, something faster, cheaper or in larger proportion ? the answer is nothing and if anything these guys are just giving unions a worse name than they already deservedly have ..
    Gee, well, thanks to union organizing in the early Twentieth Century, the concept of a forty hour work week became reality for many; enforcement of child labor laws began; the concept of a minimum wage was eventually introduced...

    Oh yeah - and after the Triangle Shirtwaist fire in March, 1911 down in Greenwich Village, an outraged public finally noticed that safety in the work place is a good idea...
    ...After more than 100 employees perished in that fire, most of them young women, teenagers, and some children.

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