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    If a lock out happens then I really will consider not following the NFL for some time....Probably not for good but will take a break if there is a lock out and the season is missed.........I don't fault the players at all but just tired of BS owners like Kraft, Jones, Synder, and of course *** clown commish himself Roger Goodell.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black@Gold Forever32 View Post
    If a lock out happens then I really will consider not following the NFL for some time....Probably not for good but will take a break if there is a lock out and the season is missed.........I don't fault the players at all but just tired of BS owners like Kraft, Jones, Synder, and of course *** clown commish himself Roger Goodell.....
    i agree with your take on this 4 guys haha

    the nfl could use another 4 or 5 owners like the rooneys

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    WASHINGTON -- Federally mediated negotiations toward a new NFL labor deal lasted about eight hours Sunday, the third consecutive day the league and its players' union met to try to find common ground before the current contract expires.

    NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith didn't stop for questions as he left the Washington office of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, a U.S. government agency, shortly after 6 p.m. He and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell arrived within minutes of each other, shortly before 10 a.m.

    Sunday was the third consecutive -- and, so far, longest -- day of face-to-face communication after months of slow and sometimes contentious bargaining. The sides have met for a total of more than 20 hours since Friday in front of George Cohen, director of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service.

    Because both sides agreed to Cohen's request that they not comment publicly on these negotiations, it's not clear what, if any, progress is being made.
    "You know we're not going to give you any information," NFL outside lawyer Bob Batterman said as he left with three league executives. "I can't say anything, other than the fact that we are meeting."

    Batterman, who represented the NHL when it lost its entire 2004-05 season to a lockout, then referred to Cohen as a "first-class mediator."
    The NFL's labor deal expires at the end of the day March 3. The union has said it believes team owners want to lock out the players as soon as the next day, which could threaten the 2011 season.

    On his way into the talks yesterday morning, Jeff Pash, the NFL's general counsel and lead labor negotiator said, "We are working hard, and we're following the director's playbook, and we'll see what we come up with."

    Lawyers Jeffrey Kessler and Richard Berthelsen, current players Tony Richardson of the New York Jets and Charlie Batch of the Steelers, and former players Pete Kendall and Sean Morey were among those representing the union yesterday. They began arriving before 9 a.m.

    "Conversation is good," Richardson said when he left.
    The sides met for about six hours on both Friday and Saturday. Cohen announced Thursday the groups agreed to the mediation, which is not binding but is meant as a way to spur progress.

    The plan calls for several days of negotiations with Cohen present. The mediation could be seen as a positive sign after several months of infrequent negotiations -- and frequent rhetoric, including charges from each side that the other was hoping for a work stoppage.

    The league and union went more than two months without any formal bargaining until Feb. 5, the day before the Super Bowl. The sides met again the next week but called off a second meeting that had been scheduled for the following day.
    The most recent CBA was signed in 2006, but owners exercised an opt-out clause in 2008.

    The biggest issue separating the sides is how to divide about $9 billion in annual revenues. Among the other significant points in negotiations: the owners' push to expand the regular season from 16 games to 18 while reducing the preseason by two games; a rookie wage scale; and benefits for retired players.
    No team owners have been seen at the mediated sessions, but they're surely keeping up with what's happening -- and at least one indicated optimism about the 2011 season in a roundabout way.

    Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay tweeted yesterday: "T Minus 351 days 2 Sup Bowl kickoff in Indy...early predictions 4 participating teams???"

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    I think it will leave a bad taste in the mouth of all fans if there is a lockout. After all this is the NFL,not the MLB, NBA, or NHL; we don't have lockouts. The reality is though that greed is present in all sports and we all this is about greed and nothing else.

    I couldn't say that I'd stop following the NFL if there were a lockout but I would be as upset as everyone else, and then some.

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    WASHINGTON -- The NFL and NFLPA have started Day 4 of negotiations before federal mediator George Cohen at the Federal Media and Conciliation Service.
    NFL general counsel Jeff Pash was first to arrive Monday, going through the doors at around 8 a.m. ET. Outside counsel Bob Batterman arrived at the FMCS at 8:50 a.m., and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell was right behind him at 9:12 a.m.

    NFLPA officials met at their 20th Street offices in the morning, before making the two-block walk over to the federal mediator's office just before 11 a.m. Executive director DeMaurice Smith arrived with Browns linebacker and executive committee member Scott Fujita. General counsel Richard Berthelsen, outside counsel Jeffrey Kessler, permanent player rep Pete Kendall, and executive committee members Sean Morey, Charlie Batch and Tony Richardson were among the union contingent.

    Sunday's meetings lasted over eight hours, the longest day of negotiations since the NFL and NFLPA arrived in Washington on Friday.
    On the way out of Sunday's meeting, Richardson said the "conversation is good." Pash said earlier in the day that, "We are working hard and following the director's playbook. We'll see what we come up with."

    But both sides, per Cohen's request, have been operating under a cone of silence on the details of the meeting. The NFL and NFLPA agreed to the federal mediation on Thursday, and logged a total of more than 20 hours of meetings on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

    The current collective bargaining agreement expires on March 3.
    The plan is for this set of meetings to go right through Thursday, with the clock ticking to the expiration of the CBA. Union chiefs will meet with player agents at a mandatory summit at the scouting combine on Friday, and the league has meetings scheduled on March 2 and 3 in Northern Virginia near D.C.

    The players believe that team owners are preparing to lock them out as soon as March 4, which could threaten the 2011 season.

    News of the start of mediation could be a positive sign after several months of infrequent negotiations -- and frequent rhetoric, including charges from each side that the other was hoping for a work stoppage.
    The league and union went more than two months without any formal bargaining until Feb. 5, the day before the Super Bowl. The sides met again last week but called off a second meeting that had been scheduled for the following day.

    The most recent CBA was signed in 2006, but owners exercised an opt-out clause in 2008.

    The biggest issue separating the sides is how to divide about $9 billion in annual revenues. Among the other significant points in negotiations: the owners' push to expand the regular season from 16 games to 18 while reducing the preseason by two games, a rookie wage scale and benefits for retired players.
    Cohen was involved in Major League Soccer's negotiations with its players' union last year, when a possible work stoppage was avoided.

    He was the baseball players' association's lead lawyer in federal court in 1995, when the National Labor Relations Board obtained an injunction against owners from then-District Judge -- and now Supreme Court Justice -- Sonia Sotomayor that led players to end their strike, which lasted more than seven months.
    The FMCS was involved in negotiations during the 2004-05 NHL lockout and in a 2005 dispute between the U.S. Soccer Federation and national team players.

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    An very good resource to follow, this particular page has the full, most recent, CBA, between the NFL and the NFLPA.

    http://nfllabor.com/current-cba/

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    this whole thing sucks. the owners couldn't get on the same page and now there trying to negotiate with the players association? What crap!

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    personally i think its bs from both sides. yeah the owners are greedy schmucks but the players are just as bad. the one thing i keep hearing from them is "oh player safety<whimper>, they dont care blahblahblah" and i understand where theyre coming from(sort of) considering the BS this last season with helmet to helmet fever, but seriously, what does changing 2 preseason games into competitive games really change? people get hurt in preseason all the time. its not like they play two hand touch during it so wtf? theyre just doing it because of how the league was acting last year.

    to be completely honest i think that rule about hitting defenseless recievers while theyre in the air is a crock of boiling poo too. dont want to get slaughtered while youre in the air? dont catch a ball over the middle when the defense is in a zone just waiting for it. if you want to blame anyone for the safety of those receivers, blame the QB's that put them in the position to get hammered. as The Great One said "I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play". HEAR HEAR! dont neuter the defense because QB's dont give a damn about their receivers and just put the ball wherever the hell they want.

    start fining QB's for that kind of thing instead and you'd see a drastic drop in the amount of broken ribs and concussions their receivers get. if they can catch the ball but in doing so put their very lives at risk then guess what? theyre NOT FREAKING OPEN! just seems to me that within the next 10 years or so we're gonna be watching the National Twohand Touch League where the players get fined if anything but their hands touch the other players.

    Jack Lambert says theyre all a bunch of SISSIES!


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    Good Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Deviouz1 View Post

    start fining QB's for that kind of thing instead and you'd see a drastic drop in the amount of broken ribs and concussions their receivers get.

    Jack Lambert says theyre all a bunch of SISSIES!

    That's a good idea.

    P.S.
    Did Jack say that recently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hit 'n run View Post
    That's a good idea.

    P.S.
    Did Jack say that recently?
    not that i know of but you know he would if asked. that or something similar. then again if he broke your arm he would tell you to stand up, rub some dirt on it and get back out there, theres more football to be played.

    chuck norris aint got **** on Jack Lambert.


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