Yeah, lets go off what ifs. Should make the conversation a little more interesting. I truly doubt it because he knew it would go public...and literally...people across the world would hear and know of it. Did he leave Seattle and immediately retract his statement?
You brought up ticky tack bullshit from another Superbowl....which I'm sure the Steelers got away with the same holding calls...like it should have been in the Superbowl in the debate. I asked for evidence and received it...move the **** on with those tears.
I'm talking about two calls made that were blown...you really wanna go back and see how much shit the Steelers got away with as well? You're not proving any point because I'm sure the Steelers got away with the same amount of shit...it's just....nobody is talking about that.
I'm not saying that...you gave me an opinion of some random ****ing hometown guy like it mattered. I gave you one from a national announcer....soooooo. Apparently you're a ****ing retard as well...put on your hat and join the club. Please shut the **** up with the name calling...you're not making yourself superior in any way. It's actually pathetic.
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Anyways, it was in the rule book even though it was a horrible time to finally enforce it...which almost everyone could agree with in saying the Raiders got screwed. How would you finally enforce some dusty rule in the most critical moment of the game? 99% of football fans never even heard of it. Wrong call to make.
I'm just happy my rapis....I mean QB (thought I was a Steelers fan for a second) is at least playing the first 5 games. I'm pretty sure saying I suck **** is allowed but calling a molester..a molester isnt. Interesting.
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NO NO NO...you can not say suck D*** on this forum, nor did I tell you to do such a thing...I said that your poll puffin cowboys were going to all season long. And no you can not talk about molestation either. But if there is something you need to talk about there are hot lines that can help you. Poor little fella...
Also I wouldn't be braggin about Romo getting to play in more games then Ben because Romo really "sucks hard" and 5 more games with him wont do your team any good. Defences are going to molest him all day long...(Molest= to annoy, disturb, or persecute especially with hostile intent or injurious effect.) forcing him to except what they feed him. No amount of mouth wash is going to get that taste out of his mouth. I hear losing taste really bad, but as a Cowboy fan you already know that....I'm thinkin your gonna be really pissed when Ben holds up trophy #7 and it gets displayed on that 200 foot TV in Cowboy stadium. HD and everything, wow, I cant wait....lol
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The Seahawks got screwed by bad officiating in the fourth....wrong or right?
Neither. It's an opinion.
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Who said the Steelers "cheated"? The call had an effect on the game...who knows what it would have been like without it. That's the main point. The calls seemed fishy to most for years...and then the official who made them came out and said they were wrong to make. So, I mean I can only take one thing from all this that's going on. The Seahawks got screwed by bad officiating in the fourth....wrong or right?[/QUOTE]
Yes, you are right. Who knows what it would have been like without it? Going on how the Steelers have typically reacted, you could make a case that they would have won anyway. Obviously that is a conjecture, but just as likely as their losing the game.
In terms of the call being fishy to "most" that is something that can't be substantiated. I hear that statement all the time and it turns out to be the person's two best friends who think so. Even if most people did think that, doesn't mean it's true. As to who said the Steelers cheated, using the term "fishy" to describe the situation calls into question the reason for making the calls and makes it sound as if there were some underhanded intent. Who would profit? Clearly the Steelers had the most to gain.
It is a fact that the referee said he felt bad about making the call. Whether that makes the call right or wrong can't be determined as again it is his opinion. And we all have a right to our opinions, including you and me. I don't think you're going to change your opinion about what happened and neither am I. Bottom line on this for me is that bad or questionable calls are made ALL the time. Many were made in the play-offs that year and whether you think they were important or not they still might have had some influence on who ended up playing in the Super Bowl. Good teams often overcome bad calls. I really don't think Seattle was a very good team that year and they have gone downhill since then.
This was pretty long-winded but this is over and out for me in this discussion as neither of us is going to change our minds.
Oh for Pete's sake......someone put this thread out of it's misery.
we received 3 in the 2000 season alone. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Nfl+On...ers-a065553706
admitted that corolla was wrong for overturning polamalu's interception in the 05 divisional round against the colts.
2007 afc wild card game against jacksonville.
(scroll down to "playoff flag wasn't thrown")
and that's just a few steelers examples. fact is the rules are supposed to be interpreted the right way. if the official is wrong they say so the vast majority of the time.
from the nfl rulebook at nfl.com:
Note: Pass blocking: Hand(s) thrust forward that slip outside the body of the defender will be legal if blocker immediately worked to bring them back inside. Hand(s) or arm(s) that ENCIRCLE A DEFENDER—I.E., HOOK AN OPPONENT—ARE TO BE CONSIDERED ILLEGAL AND OFFICIALS ARE TO CALL FOUL FOR HOLDING. Blocker cannot use his hands or arms to push from behind, hang onto, or encircle an opponent in a manner that restricts his movement as the play develops.
which locklear clearly did on the replay. he hooked clark haggans' right arm. that is a penalty. i've seen darnell stapleton penalized for having one hand on ray lewis' bicep, slightly turning him and getting flagged for it. same deal.........
and you say i'm being a lawyer.....who are you to decide what announcer's opinion counts and what other announcer's doesn't? see, i brought that up because steeler hating morons like you make excuses regarding calls like the hold that "only a biased steeler fan would think that call was right" and i gave you the opinion of the PLAY BY PLAY MAN OF THE TEAM WHO WAS PENALIZED. that is some "random ass hometown guy"? IF ANYBODY WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT CALL IT WOULD BE A SEATTLE GUY AND HE THOUGHT IT WAS LEGIT. and seriously, being national or local has nothing to do with the argument. more dancing around the subject as you always do. so despite the fact that john madden has deep seated hatred for the steelers and has rarely had a kind word for them since the 70's his opinion is the only one that counts? lmfao! yeah let's ignore the seattle guy who agrees his team was properly penalized and let's only listen to a guy who loathes the steelers and has for over 30 years. great job there. you should run for office...........I'm not saying that...you gave me an opinion of some random ****ing hometown guy like it mattered. I gave you one from a national announcer....soooooo. Apparently you're a ****ing retard as well...
interesting that you're "sure" that we "got away with the same" yet you can't name me one example. NOT ONE. yet i've named several and you try and downplay every single one of them. it's only a big deal to you when it's the other way around nice job once again senator...................I'm talking about two calls made that were blown...you really wanna go back and see how much shit the Steelers got away with as well? You're not proving any point because I'm sure the Steelers got away with the same amount of shit...it's just....nobody is talking about that.
again saying how you're "sure" we "got away" with other things yet you can't provide one example. OUTSTANDING JOURNALISM MY FRIEND! BRAVO! BOY YOU DESERVE A BISCUIT! btw, the only only with tears in their eyes is mr. butthurt cryboys fan who's on a steelers' site crying about a hold and low block from a game that was 5 years ago that doesn't involve his team. all because his precious little feelings are hurt that his so-called "america's team" doesn't have the most lombardi trophies boo hoo! you crack me up!You brought up ticky tack bullshit from another Superbowl....which I'm sure the Steelers got away with the same holding calls...like it should have been in the Superbowl in the debate. I asked for evidence and received it...move the **** on with those tears.
now hold on a second here. i seem to recall michael irvin being accused of rape/sexual assault twice, just like ben, and not being charged for either because of a lack of evidence and questionable motives of the alleged victims, just like ben. so according to your brilliant logic that must mean michael irvin is a rapist too, right? get out of here with that self righteous bullshit. you could put together a series of encyclopedias about all the criminals and scumbags that have played for the dallas cowboys since the franchise's inception. drug dealing, assault, exposing one's self to a child, wife beating, etc. hey how about thomas hollywood henderson sexually assaulting a paraplegic minor IN A WHEEL CHAIR. make sure your franchise doesn't have it's own skeletons in the closet before running your mouth off about another franchise, especially when yours is the posterchild for scumbags..............I'm just happy my rapis....I mean QB (thought I was a Steelers fan for a second) is at least playing the first 5 games. I'm pretty sure saying I suck **** is allowed but calling a molester..a molester isnt. Interesting.
wrong. a) EVERY CALL has an impact on the game you moron. and not every call is going to be correct. but to sit there and blame a call like it absolutely, positively, 100% made the plays right after it happen is asinine. that hold was on 1st down. took what would have been a 1st and goal and made it a 1st and 20 from pit's 29, in field goal range. that call didn't make casey hampton blow through seattle's center sacking hasselbeck for a 5 yard loss. that call didn't make seattle very stupidly call a run play on 2nd and 25 (NOT THE FIRST TIME SEATTLE CALLED A RUN ON 2ND OR 3RD DOWN WITH OVER 20 YARDS TO GO) for only a 7 yard gain. that call didn't make hasselbeck trow that absolutely PITIFUL interception on 3rd and 18 from the 27. IF ANYTHING killed seattle's momentum in the 4th quarter it was that pick. fact is they had 3 chances to get a touchdown, set up another first and goal or at the very least KICK A CHIP SHOT FIELD GOAL THAT WOULD CUT THEIR DEFICIT TO 1 POINT. it would be a completely different game if he doesn't do his best neil o'donnell imitation. that pick sealed their fate. and like i said, name me one game, just one game where a bad call or missed call didn't affect the ebb and flow of a game. you can't because it happens in every game ever played. it's a weak excuse..............Who said the Steelers "cheated"? The call had an effect on the game...who knows what it would have been like without it. That's the main point. The calls seemed fishy to most for years...and then the official who made them came out and said they were wrong to make. So, I mean I can only take one thing from all this that's going on. The Seahawks got screwed by bad officiating in the fourth....wrong or right?
Are people still talking about this crap??
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