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    mays is on that list of no where near....but he wasnt on his so i didnt include him

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    mays is on that list of no where near....but he wasnt on his so i didnt include him
    We can actually seperate these prospects into 3 lists:

    Happy at 18:
    Suh
    McCoy
    Berry
    Okung
    Haden
    McClain
    Davis
    Bulaga
    Thomas


    Okay at 18:
    Bryant
    Graham
    Iuputi
    D. Williams
    Dwyer
    T. Williams
    Spiller
    Dunlap
    Spikes

    Disgusted at 18:
    Bradford
    Claussen
    Cody
    Morgan
    Weatherspoon
    Price
    Tate

    The list might not be complete but you get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGold4vr View Post
    We can actually seperate these prospects into 3 lists:

    Happy at 18:
    Suh
    McCoy
    Berry
    Okung
    Haden
    McClain
    Davis
    Bulaga
    Thomas


    Okay at 18:
    Bryant
    Graham
    Iuputi
    D. Williams
    Dwyer
    T. Williams
    Spiller
    Dunlap
    Spikes

    Disgusted at 18:
    Bradford
    Claussen
    Cody
    Morgan
    Weatherspoon
    Price
    Tate

    The list might not be complete but you get the idea.
    id take clausen at 18 lol

    thats SERIOUS trade value and a franchise QB backing up a franchise QB, worth the risk for the value imo

    me and you vary quite a bit here

    Im ok with cody, weatherspoon and morgan and tate....furious with dunlap or dwyer at 18

    heres mine

    Thrilled at 18

    Berry
    Suh
    Okung
    Davis
    Bulaga
    Thomas
    Mcclain
    Haden

    Ok at 18

    Gerald Mccoy (not THAT high on him)
    Cody
    Spikes
    Spiller
    Morgan
    Trent Williams
    Dan Williams
    Graham
    Clausen (not likely by any means)
    Weatherspoon
    Bryant
    Iupati

    (few of these guys would mean commiting to a 43)

    Furious....like evander hood blow a gasket furious

    Mays
    Odrick
    Benn
    Dunlap
    JPP
    Campbell
    Bradford
    Brown
    Price

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    im actually really surprised you would be disgusted at cody....the man showed at the senior bowl he cant be moved at all, not backwards, not side to side and he takes at least 2, sometimes 3 lineman to stop him AND hes not even close to being as strong as he can be.

    Hes a good kid and coachable and with a disciplined coach he will keep his weight down, a big man like that takes 5 days to lose 30+ pounds, hes always lost weight when he has had too. Hes just so rare of a NT that you cant be disgusted at drafting him. hes not haloti ngata, but hes a good athlete and does carry his weight pretty well, hes more like a cross between casey hampton and ted washington, no pass rusher but he will take up space for years

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    price, odrick and gilyard would make it no where near a top 16 for me
    I'll give you Price and Gilyard, Gilyard especially because most seem to completly miss what he brings to the table. But I can't understand how you could be a fan of a 3-4 team and not see Odrick's talent. He's absolutely prototypical as a 3-4 DE in his play, his size/frame, athletic ability, strenth, etc, ect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by darnik44 View Post
    I'll give you Price and Gilyard, Gilyard especially because most seem to completly miss what he brings to the table. But I can't understand how you could be a fan of a 3-4 team and not see Odrick's talent. He's absolutely prototypical as a 3-4 DE in his play, his size/frame, athletic ability, strenth, etc, ect...
    i like odrick ok, not top 16 players overall though. i agree though he'll play 34 end....im just not sure were committed to the 34 anymore, we will find out this year though through the draft and hampton situation

    i would rather take odrick at 18 than evander hood at 32 and i mean that, i would be disappointed with the pick though considering i know there would be a player i would want there instead

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    i really believe that if we stick to a 34, cody is the only player that would make hood not completely suck *** for the remainder of his contract. Any linebacker that plays for the steelers should hate hood since he cant take up a blocker to save his life, at least cody has the sheer girth to make up for hoods lack of ability to play that particular position

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    My only concern for Cody is his weight....I would be afraid of his ballooning to 400+ and making him worthless.....Other then that I like Cody.....

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    but he can control his weight is all im saying, he was close to 400 when he weighed in for the senior bowl, he was probably somewhere around his normal 365 when he played. steelers have the staff to keep him in shape imo, hes not just a fat slob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black@Gold Forever32 View Post
    My only concern for Cody is his weight....I would be afraid of his ballooning to 400+ and making him worthless.....Other then that I like Cody.....


    That is the concern with Cody, that he could eat his way out of the NFL very easily. To miss on a #1 draft pick can hurt a team for a decade. These are the players who are supposed to be the foundation you build your team around. If you argue that Hood was already a miss then taking someone like Cody in the next year is even riskier. To miss on #1 picks in successive years could put us on a slow road to mediocrity. That is my concern with drafting Cody. If we pick him I would pray that you were right and that he could control his weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    but he can control his weight is all im saying, he was close to 400 when he weighed in for the senior bowl, he was probably somewhere around his normal 365 when he played. steelers have the staff to keep him in shape imo, hes not just a fat slob
    Multi-million dollar contracts can really enable someone who loves to overeat!
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