Who should we be the most worried about at 18?

[JollyRob68]

Who would you be the most upset with at pick 18 ? Which of the following guys do you think there is a possibility of us drafting ?

Taylor Mays
Trent Williams
Brandon Spikes
Carlos Dunlap
Terrence Cody
Pouncey
Uipati (sp?)
Campbell

--- Added 2/10/2010 at 09:18 AM ---

i would be least upset with cody/spikes .. would not want them at 18 but would rather see them scooped in a trade down ..

imo cody is still our best bet for NT ..

i think mays is the worst pick .. the last thing our D needs is another guy who cannot cover

I like the potential of Campbell over Trent Williams. I'd want Dan Williams over terrance Cody. To answer your question Williams and Campbell might be considered the reach at 18 as will Pouncey at this time. However I think Pouncey will move up in Value and based on your list I'd Take Iupati the #1 gaurdor trade back a couple spots for Pouncey the # 1 center.

--- Added 2/13/2010 at 12:32 AM ---

Iupati and Pouncey will go in the first round they're the #1 at center and guard.

[K Train]

cody>williams

Trent williams>Campbell

pouncey will be a first round pick, so will iupati

[darnik44]

Bruce Campbell. We want no parts of Bruce Campbell. The franchise is at a turning point, and we don't need a raw, boom or bust, developemental left tackle.

I would say Taylor Mays, but I just have to assume they wouldn't thing he was even close to the type of safety they need to compliment Troy Polamalu.

I would be fine with (some more obvious than others) Suh, Berry, Okung, Davis, McClain, Haden, Thomas, Bulaga, Williams, Iupati, Cody, Odrick, Spikes, Gilyard, Spiller, Wilson, Warren in about that order.

[Big T]

Bruce Campbell. We want no parts of Bruce Campbell. The franchise is at a turning point, and we don't need a raw, boom or bust, developemental left tackle.

I would say Taylor Mays, but I just have to assume they wouldn't thing he was even close to the type of safety they need to compliment Troy Polamalu.

I would be fine with (some more obvious than others) Suh, Berry, Okung, Davis, McClain, Haden, Thomas, Bulaga, Williams, Iupati, Cody, Odrick, Spikes, Gilyard, Spiller, Wilson, Warren in about that order.

Gilyard over spiller?

[coach]

Every team will have it's own board. But for those of who are confined to a mock draft value board because we have day jobs outside the NFL, I find it difficult to find people who agree on ratings. Here is an example of what makes draft projections difficult. Both lists below may contain a partcular player and simply disgree on where they fall on the list. But in some cases, the names on one list do not appear on another. Who are the real top 16 players that provide top first round value regardless of position?



Draft Tek
1 DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
2 SS Eric Berry, Tennessee (JR)
3 QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame (JR)
4 DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma (JR)
5 OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State
6 CB Joe Haden, Florida (JR)
7 DE/OLB Jerry Hughes, TCU
8 RB C. J. Spiller, Clemson
9 ILB Rolando McClain, Alabama (JR)
10 DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech (JR)
11 DE Everson Griffen, USC (JR)
12 QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (JR) (Injured)
13 WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State (JR)
14 DT Brian Price, UCLA
15 DE/OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan
16 OT Anthony Davis, Rutgers (JR)

Draft Dog
1 Ndamukong Suh Nebraska DT
2 Eric Berry Tennessee
3 Gerald McCoy Oklahoma DT
4 Russell Okung Oklahoma State OT
5 Joe Haden Florida CB KR
6 Rolando McClain Alabama ILB
7 C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR
8 Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE
9 Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF
10 Bryan Bulaga Iowa
11 Carlos Dunlap Florida DE
12 Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB
13 Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB
14 Trent Williams Oklahoma OT
15 Mike Iupati Idaho OG
16 Sam Bradford

Is there anyone above who should be removed or added?

[darnik44]

Gilyard over spiller?

Yes because of the offensive system the Steelers have in place (love it or hate it). Another receiver would be more value to the Steelers. I would love adding Spiller in a Ken Wisenhunt offense. But with the pass happy Bruce Arians offense, two first round RB's wouldn't get used right. I just don't have too much confidence in BA. That passing offense could be very explosive with 4 solid WR's and Heath Miller.

I see Gilyard as a cross between Santonio Holmes and DeSean Jackson. I think he would fit the Steelers offense tremendously well.

That said, I think the chances the Steelers draft him will be pretty low.

[coldrolled]

Yes because of the offensive system the Steelers have in place (love it or hate it). Another receiver would be more value to the Steelers. I would love adding Spiller in a Ken Wisenhunt offense. But with the pass happy Bruce Arians offense, two first round RB's wouldn't get used right. I just don't have too much confidence in BA. That passing offense could be very explosive with 4 solid WR's and Heath Miller.

I see Gilyard as a cross between Santonio Holmes and DeSean Jackson. I think he would fit the Steelers offense tremendously well.

That said, I think the chances the Steelers draft him will be pretty low.

Saints 51 yards rushing. 31
Colts 99 yards rushing. 17

This helped Arians again...

Arians needs OL #1 pick Bulaga/Williams #2 pick a center Tennant/Poiuncey..

If Arians is staying with the Steelers we need to protect the QB.

Patch the D with FA...

[darnik44]

Saints 51 yards rushing. 31
Colts 99 yards rushing. 17

This helped Arians again...

Arians needs OL #1 pick Bulaga/Williams #2 pick a center Tennant/Poiuncey..

If Arians is staying with the Steelers we need to protect the QB.

Patch the D with FA...

I don't think one game is enough to make a compelling case that Arians has the plan. Refer to the 15 years Cowher was in town as an indication of how a great rushing offense equals wins. Cowher just lacked a QB who could compliment the running game for most of his tenure.

The lack of commitment to the run game is why we now see the Steelers piss away leads. We no longer control the time of possession, and can't slow things down in the 2nd half. By the 4th quarter the defense is tired, and the offense goes 3 and out way to often when trying to protect the lead.

Dan Rooney made Tomlin and Arians promise to be more commited to the run going forward. This was part of the conditions for Arians to keep his job.

--- Added 2/15/2010 at 11:08 AM ---

Every team will have it's own board. But for those of who are confined to a mock draft value board because we have day jobs outside the NFL, I find it difficult to find people who agree on ratings. Here is an example of what makes draft projections difficult. Both lists below may contain a partcular player and simply disgree on where they fall on the list. But in some cases, the names on one list do not appear on another. Who are the real top 16 players that provide top first round value regardless of position?



Draft Tek
1 DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
2 SS Eric Berry, Tennessee (JR)
3 QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame (JR)
4 DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma (JR)
5 OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State
6 CB Joe Haden, Florida (JR)
7 DE/OLB Jerry Hughes, TCU
8 RB C. J. Spiller, Clemson
9 ILB Rolando McClain, Alabama (JR)
10 DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech (JR)
11 DE Everson Griffen, USC (JR)
12 QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (JR) (Injured)
13 WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State (JR)
14 DT Brian Price, UCLA
15 DE/OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan
16 OT Anthony Davis, Rutgers (JR)

Draft Dog
1 Ndamukong Suh Nebraska DT
2 Eric Berry Tennessee
3 Gerald McCoy Oklahoma DT
4 Russell Okung Oklahoma State OT
5 Joe Haden Florida CB KR
6 Rolando McClain Alabama ILB
7 C.J. Spiller Clemson RBC KR
8 Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech DE
9 Dez Bryant Oklahoma State WRF
10 Bryan Bulaga Iowa
11 Carlos Dunlap Florida DE
12 Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame QB
13 Earl Thomas Texas FS SS CB
14 Trent Williams Oklahoma OT
15 Mike Iupati Idaho OG
16 Sam Bradford

Is there anyone above who should be removed or added?

NFLDraftSpot.com

1. Ndamukong Suh, DT/DE, 6-4, 305, Nebraska

2. Eric Berry, S/CB, 5-11, 195, Tennessee*

3. Gerald McCoy, DT, 6-4, 295, Oklahoma*

4. Russell Okung, OT, 6-5, 300, Oklahoma State

5. Rolando McClain, ILB, 6-4, 250, Alabama*

6. Anthony Davis, OT, 6-6, 330, Rutgers*

7. Joe Haden, CB, 5-11, 185, Florida*

8. C.J. Spiller, RB, 5-11, 190, Clemson

9. Bryan Bulaga, OT, 6-6, 305, Iowa*

10. Derrick Morgan, DE, 6-4, 270, Georgia Tech*

11. Earl Thomas, S/CB, 5-10, 190, Texas#

12. Jared Odrick, DT/DE, 6-5, 308, Penn State

13. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, 6-2, 270, Michigan

14. Mike Iupati, OG, 6-5, 330, Idaho

15. Mardy Gilyard, WR, 6-1, 192, Cincinnati

16. Brian Price, DT, 6-1, 295, UCLA*

[K Train]

price, odrick and gilyard would make it no where near a top 16 for me

[BlackGold4vr]

price, odrick and gilyard would make it no where near a top 16 for me

I'm surprised Taylor Mays isn't on that list!