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    Big Ben's many scrambles create illusion

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07312...?cmpid=HBEHTML
    Thursday, November 08, 2007
    By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    A few of the Steelers' touchdown plays Monday night against Baltimore may have looked like playground football, but Hines Ward said they do not want to do it that way.

    Ben Roethlisberger threw two touchdown passes while scrambling away from pressure, one to Heath Miller and one to Nate Washington.

    The Steelers would prefer to score without their quarterback having to do that.

    "We want to go out there and have Ben going through his progressions and receivers running their proper routes and going to the first read, to the second read and checking down to the third read," Ward said yesterday. "That's what we're designed to go into.

    "In this game, with the weather, guys were slipping, Ben was escaping the pass rush. Nate adjusted his route and made a huge touchdown. That's exciting, but that wasn't how the play was designed.

    "We definitely can't go into a game hoping these plays are going to work all the time, because they're not. When we're playing the elite teams in the league, we have to be crisp.

    "Ben does a phenomenal job when protection does break down. He stays alive, and I think the receivers have done a great job of adjusting to that. But we don't go into a game, and say 'Everybody, y'all just go out there and run around, and Ben you just find an open guy, will you?'

    "That's not how our game plan works. So we definitely have a lot of improvement in that area."

    High fives for Big Ben

    The Elias Sports Bureau, which keeps track of NFL statistics and records, came up with more information on Roethlisberger's performance Monday night against Baltimore.

    It was only the fifth time since the NFL merged with the AFL in 1970 that a quarterback threw five touchdown passes in the first half, although it has been done twice this season and four times in the past four seasons.

    Minnesota's Tommy Kramer was the first to do it since the merger in 1986. It took another 18 years before someone else did it, and two did in 2004: Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts and Donovan McNabb of the Philadelphia Eagles. Besides Roethlisberger, Tom Brady of the New England Patriots also threw for five in a first half this season.
    Ben's ability to scramble away from pressure is so key because he is able to make plays on the run and keep the drive alive but the article does bring up a good point that he shouldn't have to be doing that and our OL is to blame for that. Those guys are not stepping up and it's got to be addressed after this season because it's obvious that none of the backups are any better so we're pretty much stuck with what we have. It's not like we don't have a talented grouop but for whatever reason they just can't get it together on a concisistent basis this year.

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    yea ben can run and throw the ball.

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    I for one love to see plays when Ben is running outside the pocket, but would prefer them to be roll out plays and not running to escape pressure........ O-line needs to step it up..... I thought it was humours that Ben said during MNF introductions "the guy that has my back Marvel Smith" IMO Smith has been the most inconsistant guys on the O-line, it seems like pressure is constantly coming from Ben's blind side

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    I understand this thread is about Ben's scrambling abilities but I the comments by Ward stick out the most....
    "We want to go out there and have Ben going through his progressions and receivers running their proper routes and going to the first read, to the second read and checking down to the third read," Ward said yesterday. "That's what we're designed to go into.
    Is Ward butt hurt that Ben through so many TD's and he wasn't involved in any of the action???

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    Nah I don't think so, I take it as Ben not being able to be comfortable in the pocket and go through all of his reads because he's running around for his life all the time. The design of the offense is to give Ben multiple places to throw too but when you scramble to elude the rush you are limited in what's available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP GUN View Post
    Nah I don't think so, I take it as Ben not being able to be comfortable in the pocket and go through all of his reads because he's running around for his life all the time. The design of the offense is to give Ben multiple places to throw too but when you scramble to elude the rush you are limited in what's available.
    Hopefully that's what it is and I'm just reading into to much That would suck to have a conflict or a ruffling of the feathers at this point of the season!

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    I doubt it is anything more then Ward saying that he would prefer the offense being able to perform the way they planned it.

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