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NeilPatrickBanana
giving caveats that nullify the original statement is cool...
LOL It "nullifies" nothing. It is recognizing a difference. Just as recognizing that AP had a better run blocking offensive line last season would not "nullify" a statement that AP is better than Bell.
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regardless, Moore is a very different type of receiver than Cotchery... Moore is more a Randle El. He's going to work across the field, and occassionaly stretch the field... but he's not going to be squatting in soft zones as a possession 3rd down guy... and he's not going to be as effective in the red zone as Cotchery was.
I disagree. Cotchery was great at being Ben's outlet.... Like you said, he was perfect being Ben's security blanket when options A and B were not available. Moore on the other hand has operated in a much different role, in a much different offense.
I like the Moore signing. I hope they use him properly. I hope he adapts to Ben's game. But those who think this is simply "1 vet out, new 1 vet in" are woefully underestimating the impact.
No one is saying Moore will be used in the same way. OCs adapt to the talent they have and I reject that Moore cannot be used effectively in the red zone.
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this is becoming a theme for you.
Yes, I sure hope that if things are overstated it is a "theme" of mine. Just as the criticism of Tomlin has been "overstated." Just as the criticism of Colbert has been "overstated." Just as the criticism of Ben (and at times praise) has been "overstated." Just as the criticism of Haley was "overstated." Is it your contention that people should not point that out? Or just me? And my statement about Sanders was a mild compliment to him in a statement where I said he was replaceable. Bringing up data that undermines your own argument is called honesty. For the life of me I cannot figure out what you have to complain about there.
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I'll take the under on that 700/6 bet... it's mostly just wishful thinking on behalf of the position you've chosen.
Feel free.
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He looked like a lost dog last year... so, rather than homering it up... I'll go by what we've seen... and it was garbage. Ii want to contend for super bowls in the final 5-6 seasons of Ben's career. Giving him weapons is going to be the key. If Wheaton turns into a good #2, GREAT! But if he doesnt we'll have another guy to bank on.... if they both turn out, we'll have a potent offense...
Not sure what you evaluated him as a "dog" on last season. He hardly played, missing 4 games for finger injuries and hardly saw the field in others. It is like evaluating Spence on the basis of preseason games a couple of seasons ago.
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And Wheaton doesn't really belong on the outside... he belongs in the slot... he is a shifty guy who has elite short area quickness and is explosive when the ball is in his hands.
Agreed.
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We need a guy who can rotate the split end/flanker role with Brown, we need to put some danger on the outside, we need to spread the defense out more or we are going to get boxed too often
I do not even disagree with that. I just do not see a lost cause of a season if we do not draft a guy 1-2.