Ben has 3 years left on his current contract; extension after 2013?

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Originally Posted by Crash

And he's missed the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years and led the NFL in picks twice since 2007.

See?

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Nope

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Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana

The need for certain steelers fans to down play what every other QB in the NFL has done is what separates the intelligent fans from the homers

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Ben's won more than Peyton and Brady since 2004.

All they do is get fat on regular season doormats.

Ben could do that too if we chose to.

But we can't. Too worried about running and protecting our defense.

All they do is win their division and get to the post season every year

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Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana

All they do is win their division and get to the post season every year

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They play in a garbage division. Not hard to do.

But since they lost their camera's? No rings.

Brees? He's missed the playoffs four times in the last 8 seasons. Nothing but a dome throwing stat whore.

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Originally Posted by Crash

They play in a garbage division. Not hard to do.

But since they lost their camera's? No rings.

Brees? He's missed the playoffs four times in the last 8 seasons. Nothing but a dome throwing stat whore.

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Cleveland and Cincinnati say hello

Anyways it's a dumb argument made by homers only

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Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana

Cleveland and Cincinnati say hello

Anyways it's a dumb argument made by homers only

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The Browns are a huge turd but the Bengals have made the play-offs three times in the past four seasons......The AFC North has been one of the better divisions in the NFL since 2009..........

Cincy's been in the playoffs four times since Ben showed up.

Drew Brees despite playing in a dome all year also led the NFL in picks in 2012.

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Originally Posted by Crash

Cincy's been in the playoffs four times since Ben showed up.

Drew Brees despite playing in a dome all year also led the NFL in picks in 2012.

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i find it very interesting that you have every excuse in the world for Ben's failures all the way up to an ownership conspiarcy theory... but when you are down playing the careers of other "elite" QBs, you fail to mention anything about the flaws surrounding their organizations.

You will mention 4th quarter defensive failures of the Steelers... but not that Brady gave his team late 4th quarter leads in TWO super bowls that their defense blew

you aren't consistent in anything, and that's a hallmark trait of a homer

this is what happens when you have a poorly informed opinion. you are forced to create excuses so that the "storyline" you've created doesn't crumble under the weight of facts

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You will mention 4th quarter defensive failures of the Steelers... but not that Brady gave his team late 4th quarter leads in TWO super bowls that their defense blew

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How many points did Brady's offense score in those games? Ben's offense scores 31 points in Oakland and idiots still blame him.

Look at Brady's post season career before they got caught.

Then look at it AFTER.

Two totally different players.

Until he wins a ring, and plays like he did in the post season prior to Spygate? His career is a farce.

He's played in 5 Super Bowls, and his offense has scored less than 20 points in three of them.

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Originally Posted by Crash

How many points did Brady's offense score in those games? Ben's offense scores 31 points in Oakland and idiots still blame him.

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it case anyone was wondering, this is what shifting the storyline looks like

and really, what has he done? i dont know... lets see
won 2 AFC Championships
Won 2 NFL MVP awards
Broke the NFL Single Season TD Record
Led the first undefeated regular season in 4 decades
and Lost 2 super bowls that his team led in the 4th quarter (1 on the flukiest play ever)

clowns