Haley Haters

Your selective quoting has been noted. You are neither intelligent or interested in honest debate.

And I am using Ben's shoulder in the same context. The reason the steelers missed the playoffs was because of Ben's injury, which led to his poor play, which led to losses in critical games

You on the other hand think it's because we ran too much, even though we ran much less than in the years that you praise as Ben's best.

Your a walking contradiction, and you edit your replies to ignore the massive holes in your "theory".

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And I am using Ben's shoulder in the same context. The reason the steelers missed the playoffs was because of Ben's injury, which led to his poor play, which led to losses in critical games

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So blowing 4th quarter leads at Denver, Dallas, Tennessee, and Oakland don't count?

Oh that's right, we can't blame the defense can we?

The play-calling sucks. You look at pass attempts. Me? I look at TYPE.

Took the modern day Terry Bradshaw and cut his balls off.

Didn't work.

Are you guys still pissing?

Still hope though, McCoy got the Chargers job.

Hopefully Bidwell will give in to Haley's supposed "outrageous" demands.

Well, in the Tenessee game, I know it wasn't Haley when the cornerbacks were giving 10 yard cushions to Damian Williams. Damian Williams?????

And I believe that was the same defensive technique also used in the Raiders game. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Real Deal Steel

Well, in the Tenessee game, I know it wasn't Haley when the cornerbacks were giving 10 yard cushions to Damian Williams. Damian Williams?????

And I believe that was the same defensive technique also used in the Raiders game. :rolleyes:

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Yep. It's easy to blame Ben when one has an agenda.

The BIGGEST problems are ownership meddling, and scheme on BOTH sides of the ball.

And that doesn't even consider the clown that Amos Jones is.

This staff is in shambles.

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Originally Posted by Crash

Yep. It's easy to blame Ben when one has an agenda.

The BIGGEST problems are ownership meddling, and scheme on BOTH sides of the ball.

And that doesn't even consider the clown that Amos Jones is.

This staff is in shambles.

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If you think it's in shambles now wait until next season. We could lose 10 of 22 starters. If so that's going too hurt and hurt bad.

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Originally Posted by Crash

So blowing 4th quarter leads at Denver, Dallas, Tennessee, and Oakland don't count?

Oh that's right, we can't blame the defense can we?

The play-calling sucks. You look at pass attempts. Me? I look at TYPE.

Took the modern day Terry Bradshaw and cut his balls off.

Didn't work.

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again, you can't even recognize your own hypocrisy. The offensive playcalling was so bad, that we had a 4th quarter lead to blow?

What's also funny, is that Ben had a chance to win all of those games in the 4th quarter. some how you've forgotten that. an yes, im about to sarcastically point out a couple different series from each game, point straight to the playcalling, and pretend like each isolated series i selective choose proves my point

DENVER (After denver took the lead in the 4th quarter
RUN-7 Yds
PASS-INC
PASS-INC
PUNT

Denver extends lead to 6, Ben gets another chance to win the game:
PASS-COMP
PASS-INC
PASS-INT-DEF TD

Failed in a "win the game scenario... even though the play calling was good enough to give you a 4th quarter lead.
40 Pass to 26 run

DALLAS - Post Dallas 4th quarter tie game
1ST DRIVE
RUN
PASS-COMP
PASS-COMP
PASS-COMP
RUN
PASS-SACK
PUNT

2ND DRIVE
PASS-INC
PASS-COMP
PASS-SACK
PASS-SACK
PASS-COMP-SHORT

3RD DRIVE (OT)
PASS-COMP
PASS-INT-LOSE

3 chances to win the game, ultimately threw the game losing INT instead
40 pass to 17 rush

TENNESSEE
after the defense came up with a huge 4th quarter INT setting the offense up at midfield:
PASS-COMP-1st
RUN
PASS-INC
PASS-INC-FG

after TEN tied the game, Ben got the ball back with a chance to win the game:
PASS-COMP
PASS-COMP
RUN
PASS-COMP
PASS-SCRAMBLE
PASS-COMP
RUN
PASS-INC-FG MISS

Had a chance to win the game, ultimately failed to convert on 3rd down, and left the kicker out to dry
40 pass to 22 rush

OAKLAND
Ben threw 4 TDs...the playcalling sure sucked. Although, on the final series, with a chance to ice the game, and a fresh 1st down... Ben went:
- PASS-SACK
- PASS-INC
- PASS-INC - Stopping the clock with 1:43 left

The coaching staff put the game in Ben's hand, and he failed to get a first down.
49 pass to 20 rush

In all 4 games you point to as defensive failures (they were), they also were QB failures, as each game could've been won late in the 4th quarter. You asked what we are paying a QB 20 million to do... well, we are paying him to do exactly what he failed to do in the 4 games you mentioned.

we also called pass plays nearly 70 percent of the time in those 4 games

it's over.

how is this thread still open?

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Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana

again, you can't even recognize your own hypocrisy. The offensive playcalling was so bad, that we had a 4th quarter lead to blow?

What's also funny, is that Ben had a chance to win all of those games in the 4th quarter. some how you've forgotten that. an yes, im about to sarcastically point out a couple different series from each game, point straight to the playcalling, and pretend like each isolated series i selective choose proves my point

DENVER (After denver took the lead in the 4th quarter
RUN-7 Yds
PASS-INC
PASS-INC
PUNT

Denver extends lead to 6, Ben gets another chance to win the game:
PASS-COMP
PASS-INC
PASS-INT-DEF TD

Failed in a "win the game scenario... even though the play calling was good enough to give you a 4th quarter lead.
40 Pass to 26 run

DALLAS - Post Dallas 4th quarter tie game
1ST DRIVE
RUN
PASS-COMP
PASS-COMP
PASS-COMP
RUN
PASS-SACK
PUNT

2ND DRIVE
PASS-INC
PASS-COMP
PASS-SACK
PASS-SACK
PASS-COMP-SHORT

3RD DRIVE (OT)
PASS-COMP
PASS-INT-LOSE

3 chances to win the game, ultimately threw the game losing INT instead
40 pass to 17 rush

TENNESSEE
after the defense came up with a huge 4th quarter INT setting the offense up at midfield:
PASS-COMP-1st
RUN
PASS-INC
PASS-INC-FG

after TEN tied the game, Ben got the ball back with a chance to win the game:
PASS-COMP
PASS-COMP
RUN
PASS-COMP
PASS-SCRAMBLE
PASS-COMP
RUN
PASS-INC-FG MISS

Had a chance to win the game, ultimately failed to convert on 3rd down, and left the kicker out to dry
40 pass to 22 rush

OAKLAND
Ben threw 4 TDs...the playcalling sure sucked. Although, on the final series, with a chance to ice the game, and a fresh 1st down... Ben went:
- PASS-SACK
- PASS-INC
- PASS-INC - Stopping the clock with 1:43 left

The coaching staff put the game in Ben's hand, and he failed to get a first down.
49 pass to 20 rush

In all 4 games you point to as defensive failures (they were), they also were QB failures, as each game could've been won late in the 4th quarter. You asked what we are paying a QB 20 million to do... well, we are paying him to do exactly what he failed to do in the 4 games you mentioned.

we also called pass plays nearly 70 percent of the time in those 4 games

it's over.

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You're logic's been over.

You are charting plays. You aren't looking at the type. Any idiot can do that.

7.3 YPA. 2nd lowest of his career.

8-8.