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Lol us fans are dicks!

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Exactly. Did anyone really believe Haley would come in and this team would have a top 5 offense right away?

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We will never have a top 5 offense. Our insistence on running the ball with late leads prevent it.

Same with scoring. Unless we start forcing more turnovers, the best we will peak at is between 12-15.

Haley's incompetent. His play-calling in key moments of the Bengals game cemented his legacy.

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Originally Posted by Crash

Haley's incompetent. His play-calling in key moments of the Bengals game cemented his legacy.

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One year is a legacy? One game cemented that? You need to take a step back from your Haley Hatred and look at things with some objectivity.

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Originally Posted by RIVERS OF STEEL

Damn, I keep forgetting Haley is the greatest thing since sliced bread around here. Oh well. I do doubt Whiz is ever going to be a player around here though. Can't wait till 2013.

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Wasnt the Cards offense cruising with Whiz HC and Haley OC?

Im giving Haley more than one freakin year.

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Originally Posted by Nolrog

One year is a legacy? One game cemented that? You need to take a step back from your Haley Hatred and look at things with some objectivity.

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Yeah, 8 and 8. Turned a franchise QB into Trent Dilfer and our BACKUP running back had a higher yards per catch than Antonio Brown.

Ben had a new offense in 2007 with his new OC, completely new system and new terminology.

He threw 32 TD passes and Parker was leading the league in rushing.

Hold Haley to the same standards, don't let the Pittsburgh guy off the hook.

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Originally Posted by coldrolled

Wasnt the Cards offense cruising with Whiz HC and Haley OC?

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We don't run that offense. That featured 3 wides and three 1000 yard receivers.

This is Art's offense, what he wants, and Haley is doing it for him.

Puppet's gotta eat too.

yeah yeah we get it... you dont like Haley. But hes not leaving, can we move on now?

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Originally Posted by Crash

Yeah, 8 and 8. Turned a franchise QB into Trent Dilfer and our BACKUP running back had a higher yards per catch than Antonio Brown.

Ben had a new offense in 2007 with his new OC, completely new system and new terminology.

He threw 32 TD passes and Parker was leading the league in rushing.

Hold Haley to the same standards, don't let the Pittsburgh guy off the hook.

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Ben was having a MVP type season before he got injured, noone was calling out for Haley's head until Ben came back and the debacle happened. It was obvious Ben was not healhty for the last portion of the year. AN MVP TYP ESEASON BEFORE THE INJURY. Now all of a sudden we want to be the Browns?Raiders and other shit teams who get rid of cordinators after 1 season? Are you ****ing kidding me. You do realize our offensive line was in shambles this season after Adams went down also?

I think it's funny how everyone put the blame on Haley when Ben never had time to do anything with the ball anyway the last half of the season.

He needs 3 years, give him 2 more years. Next year will be different.