Like I said, it is my opinion and Im not going to put up stats blah blah blah to change yours. Thats what your opinion is for.
And Ben threw 4 TDs no picks and they lost to Oakland.Quote:
. ti.so, the defense shouldnt be blamed for the Cinci loss anyway, they played there asses off all game to only give up 6 points.
Funny how that game doesn't get mentioned.
The defense is overrated. They blow too many 4th quarter leads. When the offense keeps them off the field they look great. Always has been.
Ben is a TOP 5 QB the problem with Ben is that he needs yes people like Arians around him, and when he doesn't get his way he becomes a Diva plain and simple,up until the Kansas City game this year, Ben TD to INT rate was the best of his career, IMO the problem has been Todd Haley yelling at Ben when he throws an INT or take a sack unnecessary it's been happening since week one in Denver, and recently Ben making the statements he did after the Dallas game, so until something/someone gives we are gonna have to deal with this type of BS we have dealt with this year,this is a great time for Dan R to put his foot down and make some long over due change to get this ship righted...
Haley hasn't hardly yelled at Ben during games at all. Simply not accurate.
The blowups just haven't been there. Sorry.
Then you can't think Peyton is elite if your opinion is to be taken seriously.Quote:
Hey, I put my opinion out there. I dont think Ben is elite.
Roethlisberger is ranked 9th all time in passer rating. Not a single quarterback on that list is a "fluke," and neither is Roethlisberger. He's elite whether you think so or not.
This entire thread is pretty idiotic. Neil doesn't want to admit that he's one of these ESPN highlight fans, and quite frankly, Roethlisberger doesn't make the highlight reel often because the Steelers offense is usually boring as f#%k. However, that doesn't change the fact that Roethlisberger plays nearly perfect in the system he's forced to play in, nor does that mean he wouldn't play nearly perfect in a system that is high-scoring if given the opportunity.
For someone to say that "he isn't an elite passer, but a riverboat gambler" is just dumb. It's not based on any stats. It's purely the personal opinion of someone who devalues a player's skills based on his lack of highlight footage.