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Steelerlyn
09-15-2006, 12:23 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AsachmuV4UvpEP.hKTfUcjo5nYcB?slug=ys-bushprobe&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

House of Steel
09-15-2006, 12:27 AM
Figured. I knew there was something fishy going on with him and his family.

BlitzburghRockCity
09-15-2006, 12:29 AM
He was in trouble taking money from a prospective agent during his senior year, letting the company pay for the rent while his family stayed in some palacial mansion on the beach, etc.

Steelersfan
09-15-2006, 02:07 AM
The NCAA needs to do something about all this. We all know he isn't the only one that does this stuff.

Koopa
09-15-2006, 02:08 AM
give his hiesman to vince young lol

Steelersfan
09-15-2006, 02:12 AM
give his hiesman to vince young lol

Keep dreaming!....lol

AZ_Steeler
09-15-2006, 03:09 AM
Finally someone sheds some light on this topic. I have been wondering what was up with it because it was starting to seem like it was being pushed under the rug!

The best part of the article:

If the NCAA rules that Bush received extra benefits during his playing career at USC, he could be ruled retroactively ineligible. Since some of the benefits date back to the 2004 season, the Trojans' national championship that season could be rescinded. USC could face further NCAA sanctions and Bush's 2005 Heisman Trophy could be in jeopardy. The Heisman ballot indicates that an athlete must meet NCAA eligibility requirements to be considered for college football's most prestigious award.

There is nothing more that I would love to see than USC having their national title rescinded and to see Reggie's Heisman stripped from him. This program was talked about entirely to much and to see the team was tainted now, makes it that much better :D Yes, I'm loving every moment of this! The only people I feel sorry for are his teamates who did no wrong doing... what a selfish act he pulled, especially his family!

Steelersfan
09-15-2006, 03:17 AM
Maybe USC should sue him for damages.......lol

AZ_Steeler
09-15-2006, 03:25 AM
Maybe USC should sue him for damages.......lol
:hilarious: I would like to see that! :hilarious:

There is another player that is involved with investigation as well, I don't know whatever became of his situation though. The same company was giving him money because they wanted to represent him too.

Steelersfan
09-15-2006, 03:33 AM
I don't see why they can't sue them as long as the school had nothing to do with it. You may find that USC isn't as innocent as people may think though.
And that could go for all the bigtime colleges.

AZ_Steeler
09-15-2006, 03:49 AM
These big time program you know something is up! Back in High School this guy on our team was a beast! He got a full ride to Missouri (he was actually the guy that almost intercepted the ball in the end zone of that thrilling game between Nebraska and Missouri about 9-10 years ago... good trivia question :)) and he kept in touch with a mutual friend we both had. Well, to make a long story short he was getting some "extra" benefits with his full ride scholarship. I would imagine all of the D1 schools are doing a little something for their "stars".

Steelerlyn
09-15-2006, 11:31 AM
Was it last year they did a poll on how many college athletes have taken money, gifts, etc and many previous college athletes did confess to have doing so, in fact the # was startling. It went back to high school.

I personally do think that any kid should be allowed to work, :tt02: :banana: :lol: then again maybe athletes are and I am ignorant of that fact.

BlitzburghRockCity
09-15-2006, 12:45 PM
I don't personally see a problem with college players in any sport getting some extra help from prospective agents or getting some help on the side from the college. Im sure there would be ramifications of it if something happened where the player didn't get drafted or got seriously injured or something and I can also see where the kids wouldn't always research it enough to cover their asses either.

suitanim
09-15-2006, 01:38 PM
I doubt the NCAA removes any titles or honors (but they should), instead, they'll punish THIS years team and make them bowl ineligible or something...that's fundamentally unfair.

Steelersfan
09-15-2006, 01:49 PM
I doubt the NCAA removes any titles or honors (but they should), instead, they'll punish THIS years team and make them bowl ineligible or something...that's fundamentally unfair.

I couldn't agree more Suit. Bush has everything he wanted out of it and the NCAA will turn around and punish the players that had nothing to do with it. They need to come up with something better than they have.

Steelerlyn
09-15-2006, 02:06 PM
I doubt the NCAA removes any titles or honors (but they should), instead, they'll punish THIS years team and make them bowl ineligible or something...that's fundamentally unfair.


I can remember years ago when Michigan was in deep, deep trouble. A booster Ed Martin gave a player money throughout his high school and college years. The Chris Webber went on to play for Sacramento http://www.news10.net/storyfull.asp?id=3674
Michigan had won titles in the NIT http://www.bettingexpress.com/news/sports_betting/36597.html
Steve Fischer who was the head coach of UofM and (hypothetically) also aware of what was going on went on to coach in the at another NCAA school (which looked very strange but at the same time, maybe he wasn't in on it) I live in MI (in East lansing) and they fairly or unfairly had fischer hung.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Fisher

House of Steel
09-15-2006, 04:20 PM
Fischer was an idiot at Michigan, Lyn. I even went to a few games at Crisler Arena and the players were awesome, exception of Webber. I wanted to hang Webber after that damn NCAA Title game where he called a TO and there wasn't one left. North Carolina went on to win it. MORON!!!

Steelerlyn
09-15-2006, 04:27 PM
Fischer was an idiot at Michigan, Lyn. I even went to a few games at Crisler Arena and the players were awesome, exception of Webber. I wanted to hang Webber after that damn NCAA Title game where he called a TO and there wasn't one left. North Carolina went on to win it. MORON!!!


For being an idiot, as you say, he did know how to win ball games.

House of Steel
09-15-2006, 04:36 PM
Yeah, but he should of told WEBBER we had no more timeouts. I played with his brother at Spring Arbor College on the Men's team. He isn't nearly as good as his older brother, Chris. Them two look alike.

AZ_Steeler
09-15-2006, 05:27 PM
I don't know how he can deny he's done nothing wrong... see highlight in quote!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060915/ap_on_sp_co_ne/fbc_reggie_bush_investigation_7

Reggie Bush responds to gift allegations

LOS ANGELES - New Orleans Saints running back Reggie Bush and his family appear to have accepted gifts, money and other benefits worth more than $100,000 from two marketing agents while the Heisman Trophy winner was still playing at Southern California, according to a report posted Thursday on Yahoo.com.

After practice Friday, Bush responded to questions about the report much the same as he did when the allegations of improper benefits first were reported earlier this year.

"I'm not worried about any of these allegations or anything like that," he said. "Because I know what the truth is, like I said from day one. Once the smoke clears, everybody's going to see we did nothing wrong."

The report says Michael Michaels, a marketing agency investor who wanted to represent the football star, and current Bush marketing agent Mike Ornstein lavished Bush and his family with gifts while he was still at USC, each hoping to entice him to sign with them once he left school.

Bush eventually chose Ornstein, which caused a falling out between Michaels and Bush's family.

Speculation over whether Bush and his family received money arose earlier this year in reports that his mother and stepfather didn't pay $54,000 in rent during the year they lived in a house owned by Michaels, who later said the family promised to repay him once Bush went pro.

The NCAA prohibits student-athletes and their families from receiving extra benefits from agents or their representatives. Any improper benefits could lead to NCAA sanctions against USC and retroactively cost Bush his college eligibility and Heisman Trophy.

"Obviously it does affect you just because it is out there," Bush said. "But at the same time I know there's nothing to worry about.

"It makes you want to go out there right away and tell your side of the story. Show everybody the facts, the truth. But you can't do that. That wouldn't be the right way to do it."

shimmysteelerfan
09-15-2006, 06:04 PM
old news........j/k i heard bout this around draft time i think.

AZ_Steeler
09-15-2006, 06:11 PM
old news........j/k i heard bout this around draft time i think.

You're right, this is old news that did come out just days before the draft. It's been kept quiet though since then and it's felt like nobody wanted to touch it. Yahoo performed their own investigation and has brought the issue back to the surface in an attempt to say "We didn't forget about it!" Which I'm gald they've done because I would like to see USC get stripped of all their records and championships!

:evillaugh:

Captcoolhand
09-15-2006, 11:01 PM
I just won't to know that if they did take the money, what can they do now? nothing

Steelersfan
09-16-2006, 12:34 AM
I still don't see why the school can't sue Bush if he was in the wrong.