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Captcoolhand
09-03-2007, 11:22 AM
Steelers fans are to be commended for not accepting mediocrity.
But they look kind of silly when they can't spot it.
This year's model looks like an 8-8 team, and is closer to 6-10 than 10-6. Only a miraculous year by quarterback Ben Roethlisberger could propel the Steelers into the playoffs.
Don't rule that out. If Roethlisberger plumbs the versatility and unpredictability of his new offense while avoiding capital punishment at the hands of his line, great things are possible. If the Steelers fail, Roethlisberger will wake up with a headache most Mondays while absorbing an unfair share of the blame, but every quarterback signs that Faustian contract.
Beyond Roethlisberger, the Steelers are average. That's a blasphemous thought in these parts. But in the land of the wild-eyed yinzer, the objective thinker rules.
Consider this: How many Steelers starters are good enough to start for a legitimate postseason contender? How many Steelers defenders could start for, say, Baltimore?
The Ravens would laugh at Clark Haggans and James Harrison.
The Ravens would laugh at the Steelers cornerbacks.
James Farrior, Larry Foote, Casey Hampton, Troy Polamalu and Aaron Smith provide the only true quality on the Steelers defense. Brett Keisel may join that pack; he has the football sense and athletic ability to handle his expanded role.
How many starters on the Steelers offense could start for Cincinnati? Hines Ward could be the third receiver. Maybe.
Roethlisberger, Alan Faneca, Willie Parker and Marvel Smith are legit big-timers. Santonio Holmes and Heath Miller might be. Ward is a lot closer to the end of his prime than the beginning.
It's a bit skewed to compare the Steelers to the best their division rivals have to offer while ignoring the worst of the Ravens and Bengals. Baltimore quarterback Steve McNair could easily jump back on the scrap heap, while Cincinnati's rotten defense doesn't have even a single playmaker.
But it's difficult to imagine the Steelers outscoring Cincinnati, and equally difficult to imagine the Steelers scoring enough against Baltimore. The Steelers figure to again be brutalized two straight by the Ravens. Going 1-1 against Cincinnati seems possible only because the Bengals loathe prosperity.
If the Steelers really see themselves as a Super Bowl contender not far removed from winning XL, hiring a rookie head coach from outside the organization was bad. Continuity from within would have been better.
The Steelers' saving grace may be their undemanding early schedule.
At Cleveland this coming Sunday, then Buffalo and San Francisco at home, at Arizona, then home against Seattle. If the Steelers get through that stretch 4-1 (or, speaking idealistically, 5-0), momentum has been built and wiggle room created.
The schedule gets a lot harder. But if the Steelers begin 5-0, 10-6 and a playoff berth seems realistic. If the Steelers begin 3-2, that might seem OK but will actually be a deep hole.
The Steelers will come up short at center, where behemoth foes will bully Sean Mahan physically. Tackle Willie Colon is unproven. Holmes and Miller must fulfill their promise. More important, each must be given ample chance to fulfill his promise.
On defense, the outside linebackers are below average. The best cornerback won't be starting.
It all adds up to mediocre. It all adds up to 8-8. Recognize, will you?Hated before we even get started but you got to admit, there's some truth to all this.:yesnod:

K Train
09-03-2007, 11:27 AM
as one that has never experienced mediocrity, i call hater on this guy

Black@Gold Forever32
09-03-2007, 11:32 AM
Let me guess Mark Madden wrote that trash...lol Totally disagree with the Ravens and Bengals being so much better.....The Ravens lost Adalius Thomas...He was huge for their defense....Plus both McNair and Gay Ray are a year older....

As for the Bengals....The X Factor on their offense is lost for the first 8 games...Yes CJ and TJ are very good but having a 3rd WR like Henry creates so many mis matches for defenses and really makes that offense hard to stop....Plus the Bengals don't have a backup RB to Rudi...Their defense still blows...

I don't see the Steelers as a 12 win team right now...But they have enough talent to compete for the AFC North crown.....I see the North this year being won with 10 or 11 wins...

strong D
09-03-2007, 11:51 AM
Hated before we even get started but you got to admit, there's some truth to all this.:yesnod:

whos the clown who wrote this shiat?:nono::nono::scratch::dunno:

BlitzburghRockCity
09-03-2007, 12:05 PM
That article is complete **** ! Calling the Steelers players as not being able to start on the Ratbirds or Bungals is just plain nonsense. This jerkwad obviously knows nothing about our team and is only going by what the rest of the media says not diving into the team and doing his research.

the Bengals and rats would love to have any one of all those players on our roster. We've got a unit full of current and former pro bowlers and a squad with renewed life after becoming stagnant with a head coach in Cowher who's time to step down was overdue.

Are we perfect? Of course not, we've got question marks that need to be answered and only time will tell how we respond but I like the make up of this team and the potential we have.

This kinda crap just pisses me off to see them bash us like that...this chump acts like the Rats and Bungals are God's gift to the NFL. There's plenty of holes on the rats and bengals alike just as there is with any team but he obviously refuses to see this clearly. Well just keep over looking us you worthless POS cuz we're coming and we're taking back the AFCN !!!!

GoBenGo
09-03-2007, 12:08 PM
STEELERS MEDIOCRE!?!?!?
I don't think so, moron that later!

DIESELMAN
09-03-2007, 12:46 PM
You got a link on this BS? I'm optimistic every year no matter what kind of team we field. We have the talent on both sides of the ball, the thing about that is to gel and be playing as a team at the right time of year (every team, no matter how talented goes through this). The bigger question is this, how many Ratbirds and Bungholes are worthy to be a Steeler? Let me answer that....NONE, to be a Steeler takes more then talent, it takes heart and desire. :cope: :cope: :cope: :cope: :cope:

GoBenGo
09-03-2007, 12:59 PM
Yeah the ravens had a good D last year, and usually do.They have to, they generate no offensive points, and have historically no weapons. But let's be real. this is not last years Ravens D . Lewis is more cheerleader than physical leader these days, Suggs is a stud as is Scott, but are they better than Haggans , Farrior, and Foote. IMO No. After their first 3 it gets shallow. Secondary looks good on paper too, but I believe talentwise we man up with them.
Which takes us to the offensive side of the ball: they have a peiced together O-line that has no depth, Mcnair is another year older and ticking, Kyle Billick-Boler ,he is like their Koy Detmer. Recievers? Mason, cmon . Our squad smokes these guys. And Hines being washed up? Please. Guy has more of a motor than most second year studs! Not one raven compares to Hines.
Heap is a stud, But Miller , is not chopped liver. Guy has skills!! If he gets his chances, big things.
Now for the BENGALS::bengalssuck:

SteelerNerd
09-03-2007, 01:03 PM
STEELERS MEDIOCRE!?!?!?
I don't think so, moron that later!

quoted for truth

BlackGold4vr
09-03-2007, 01:16 PM
I don't buy into any of that crap! I hope some of our Steelers read this article. We are easily one of the top ten teams in the league. The Bengirls still have one of the weakest defenses in the league and the Ravens have an offense that still struggles to score points. Coincident that we were one of only 2 teams in the league last year whose offense and defense BOTH ranked in the leagues top 10? Let them believe this ****. It will only make the person that wrote that seem all the more stupid!

I am not ready to reserve tickets in Arizona yet but we are a far better team than this clown gives us credit for. I will be shocked if we don't make the playoffs.

:tt02:

K Train
09-03-2007, 01:17 PM
Now for the BENGALS::bengalssuck:
we are now looking at what makes a good post a great post lol

BlitzburghNation
09-03-2007, 01:18 PM
Well at least on SIRIUS NFL RADIO They are showing us love,,,,,,,

People such as Pat Kirwin,Tim Ryan,Solomon Wilcots "Just to name a few"

Hard to predict what no-one's seen yet & like Dieselman said,our team has to jel together & if the o-line does that "Watch-Out" ,,,,,, :bigthumb:

I may be a homer,but I still believe we are winning our division & gonna make a serious run for that 6th title,,,,,,,,,,,,, :tt02:

Captcoolhand
09-03-2007, 01:21 PM
whos the clown who wrote this shiat?:nono::nono::scratch::dunno:


Let me guess Mark Madden wrote that trash...lol
There's your answer......:lol:

Black@Gold Forever32
09-03-2007, 01:32 PM
I can smell Mark Madden's trash all the way here in IN......His articles are all the same....Always doom and gloom for the Steelers....

Ok I have a story for you all....Back in 2000 when the Steelers faced the Browns in Cleveland that year.....The Steelers lost to the Browns....They started 0-3 that year......But the highlight in that game was Joey Porter knocking the crap out of Chris Gardocki a couple times in that game when Gardocki was trying to run down the field and try to make a tackle....Gardocki responded the 3rd time by flipping off the Steelers sideline.

But the next morning on my way to work I was listening to ESPN radio....They had Mark Madden on....He basically called Joey Porter a thug for what he did to Gardocki and the Steelers were on the decline for a long time for having thugs/bums like Joey Porter on their roster.....The Steelers finished 9-7 after an 0-3 start in 2000....Went to the AFC title game in 2001......Made the play-offs in 2002.....Went to the AFC title game in 2004...Won the Super Bowl in 2005....So great call Mark Madden on the Steelers being in the decline for a long time....lol

The point is Madden is a tool that always bashes the Steelers and predicts doom and gloom for them...He called the Terrible Towel a glorified bar rag...He hates the term Steelers Nation...So fellow Steelers fans whatever Madden writes/predicts don't pay any attention to it since he usually has his head up his ***...

He never says a negative thing about the Pens though...lol

GoBenGo
09-03-2007, 01:41 PM
The bigger question is this, how many Ratbirds and Bungholes are worthy to be a Steeler? Let me answer that....NONE, to be a Steeler takes more then talent, it takes heart and desire. :cope: :cope: :cope: :cope: :cope:[/QUOTE]
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
TOTALLY AGREE!
talent, work ethic , character, and heart.
VERY few players throuhgout the league can pay the admission to be a Steeler.

Stairwayto7
09-03-2007, 02:07 PM
Who wrote the crap?

SteelersWoman
09-03-2007, 02:29 PM
Is Mark Madden coach Madden's son?

Black@Gold Forever32
09-03-2007, 02:41 PM
Is Mark Madden coach Madden's son?

No.....Mark is just fat piece of crap....lol He sucks and is a wannabe writer.......:lol:

JB 67
09-03-2007, 02:50 PM
I agree with all of you i feel we can definitely compete in the division and think the def and special teams might actually be an improvement..We all know the O-line is a question mark :cope:

TEEMONT
09-03-2007, 02:55 PM
He never says a negative thing about the Pens though...lol

Thats b/c he is what Smizak calls a "media friend of Mario" lol.

The dude used to be involved in WCW, that should show you what kind of talent he has. He, IMO, is a shock jock, not a sports jock.

Black@Gold Forever32
09-03-2007, 03:03 PM
Thats b/c he is what Smizak calls a "media friend of Mario" lol.

The dude used to be involved in WCW, that should show you what kind of talent he has. He, IMO, is a shock jock, not a sports jock.

Dude I remember when he was on Monday Night Nitro...lol I just never have liked or respected Mark Madden....The garbage that comes out of his mouth just makes me sick and its sad he gets paid for what he does....

Steel-Da-One
09-03-2007, 03:23 PM
whoever wrote that garbage is an idiot. im also assuming its madden that wrote it. if you can manage to put up 20+ on the ratbirds you have them beat, because their offense completely sucks. and the bungles offense will need to put up 40+ a game to win prety much every week because their defense completely sucks. im not worried about either team myself.

SteelerFan87
09-03-2007, 06:37 PM
LOL! I love how he glorifies the Bungles and Ratans strengths, but quickly glosses over their weaknesses.

Sure, the Bengals offense is probably more talented than the Steelers. But who cares, if their defense is nonexistant? Doesn't that kind of cancel out their offensive power? And sure, the Ravens defense is probably more talented than the Steelers (although also alot older). But who cares, if their offense can't score points? Doesn't that cancel out their fearsome D?
The Steelers may not have the best offense in the league, or the best defense in the league, but we're good on both sides of the ball, which is something NONE of our division rivals can say. You can't win with half a team.

As for Steelers fans not being able to recognize mediocrity, I recognized it in 1999 and 2000. In fact, the Steelers were better in 2000 than I thought we would be. I'm convinced they can be anywhere from 11-5 to 13-3 this year.

SteelersWoman
09-03-2007, 06:43 PM
The Steelers may not have the best offense in the league, or the best defense in the league, but we're good on both sides of the ball, which is something NONE of our division rivals can say. You can't win with half a team.


Very well said! :tt02:

digdug
09-03-2007, 07:13 PM
:imho:Madden can't recognize sub-mediocrity when he looks in the mirror each day (that is if he doesn't :barf:). What a chump!!!:cursin:

portcityblackandgold
09-04-2007, 09:33 AM
I'm so tired of hearing about the Ratbirds and the Bungles. Nobody else wants to
see a dominant Steeler team but a true member of the Steeler Nation. We have and will continue to dominate the AFC North AFC Central whatever they want to call it.s To all the haters I say tough titty wit a wooden nipple. We're looking to add number 6 to the trophy case HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO, HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE :WE GO HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO:tt02::tt02::tt02::tt02::tt02: