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BlitzburghRockCity
06-08-2007, 06:58 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07159/792456-66.stm


But 2nd pick Woodley is shining in practice

Friday, June 08, 2007

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



Five weeks after the Steelers flooded a team weakness by drafting outside linebackers with their first two picks, the news from the practice field is mixed.


Robin Rombach, Post-Gazette
Steelers first-round draft pick linebacker Lawrence Timmons displays his jersey as the team's top pick as coach Mike Tomlin looks on in April. Timmons has been hampered with a groin injury this offseason.
Click photo for larger image.

Second-round draft choice LaMarr Woodley's development has been unprecedented for his position. On the other hand, Lawrence Timmons, the draft's flagship choice, has made no progress on the field.

Timmons, the 15th player chosen in the April 28 draft, took his usual position in shorts and his gold Steelers practice shirt on the sideline yesterday. A persistent groin injury that hit him in his first pro practice, May 11, has kept him from practicing. He tried once last week but quickly shut things down when he realized his injury was not healed.

He might try to test the waters again next week.

"We'll try to get him a couple of reps next week and see where he's at," said Keith Butler, who coaches the team's linebackers.

Timmons is the second consecutive first-round draft choice who will have missed virtually all of the team's spring practices. Wide receiver Santonio Holmes made only the weekend minicamp last year because by NFL rule he was not permitted to join his new teammates until Ohio State finished with its final exams in June.

It's a different case for Timmons, because he at least is learning the defense, if not physically participating. The Steelers want to make sure he's ready for training camp July 23.

"You don't want to keep having a recurring problem," Butler said. "I'd rather see him get well, get healthy, make sure he's in great shape. I don't think it's possible for a rookie to understand what it's like to be in NFL shape until they've done it, until they've been around the guys who they're playing with. These two guys are no different, they don't understand what it is to be in great NFL shape."

At least Woodley is healthy and able to practice, and he has made the kind of progress rarely seen by a college defensive end converting to outside linebacker in the 3-4 defense. The Steelers have him on the left side, where Clark Haggans starts, and he was dropping into pass coverage in the zone defense yesterday.

"Compared to the other guys we've had here and trying to make the transition with them, he's further along than anybody we've had," Butler said.

Usually, a player making that kind of transition does not play on defense his first season, spending most of his time as a rookie learning the position and on special teams. It could be different for Woodley and Timmons, too, provided his injury heals and he shows he can handle it in training camp.

Both are 6 feet 1, but Woodley weighs 30 pounds more than Timmons at 265. At the least, Woodley could rush the passer from end when they go to their dime defenses. They have much different plans for Timmons, when he is healthy. He's quick and speedy and versatile enough that they would like to replace Troy Polamalu with him when they are in certain passing defenses.

Replace an All-Pro safety with a rookie linebacker?

"We're going to stand him up and play him inside in that situation," Butler revealed. "Not in the middle spot, more so what Troy's doing in our quarters [defense, which uses three safeties and three cornerbacks]."

The idea is when an offense, on third down, uses three wide receivers, a tight end and a back, it's better to add another linebacker to the mix and go to what they call the nickel defense with five defensive backs and not six.

"Sometimes, it's better to have a bigger body in there," Butler said. "I think coach [Dick] LeBeau always has been partial to the quarter package. But we feel Lawrence can cover and blitz and play the run and we're going to try to utilize those talents."

There are just three things left: Timmons' groin must heal, he must get into shape and he must show them on the field he can do it.

"Lawrence's education has to continue this summer," Butler said, "in terms of trying to get into the top shape he's going to need to be in to contribute to this football team."

I think a lot of us were thinking this right from the get go regardless of injury; will Woodley outshine Timmons and progress faster. Many draft guru's said that Woodley could have very easily been a 1st round pick if he wasn't such a tweaner on defense because of his size.

The dude is going to be a monster for us. We can't go wrong with either Timmons or Woodley. I think we've got 2 guys who are just going to flat out bring it every play and push our current starters for more playing time almost right from the gate of the 2007 season.

I can't wait to see what Timmons does in these situations they have planned for him when he gets healthy :crossfingers:

25MVPKing
06-08-2007, 01:12 PM
They're both animals and they're both first round draft picks. This has potential to be a great draft.

As far as the injury, only the Steelers can know what it's like. Timmons has never missed NFL spring practices while trying to learn the playbook. The fans, more or less, don't know if or understand how sitting on the sidelines can be beneficial. At this point everyone, including Timmons, has to trust that he's learning while injured and that staying out until he's 100% is the best thing for him to do.

Both Timmons and Woodley should be good to go for July and will probably see a lot of action this season.

Black@Gold Forever32
06-08-2007, 02:32 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07159/792456-66.stm



I think a lot of us were thinking this right from the get go regardless of injury; will Woodley outshine Timmons and progress faster. Many draft guru's said that Woodley could have very easily been a 1st round pick if he wasn't such a tweaner on defense because of his size.

The dude is going to be a monster for us. We can't go wrong with either Timmons or Woodley. I think we've got 2 guys who are just going to flat out bring it every play and push our current starters for more playing time almost right from the gate of the 2007 season.

I can't wait to see what Timmons does in these situations they have planned for him when he gets healthy :crossfingers:

I think Lamarr Woodley could very well be the steal of the 2007 NFL draft...The kid is a player and he seems to learn at a quick rate...Which is very good news since he is a rookie....As for Timmons, its sucks he can't practice....But I rather have him 100 percent for training camp.....

Its going to be interesting what LeBeau does with both of these young LBs.... :tt02:

SteelersWoman
06-08-2007, 02:48 PM
Bringin' the Wood--I LOVE that video! I've watched it like 30 times, have shown it to anyone who'll watch it with me, and have it saved in my faves lol

By the way--I agree with TG, 25MVPKing and 32 on their posts :bigthumb:

K Train
06-08-2007, 02:50 PM
86.689% of you were pissed when we took woodley in the second. lol

Black@Gold Forever32
06-08-2007, 02:53 PM
86.689% of you were pissed when we took woodley in the second. lol

I wasn't....I actually suggested taking Woodley in the 2nd instead of an OLB in the first before the draft.....I can't remember the threads I stated that in...But I know I mentioned Woodley....

K Train
06-08-2007, 02:55 PM
yeah well i remember a bunch of WTF ARE YOU THINKING TAKING 2LINEBACKERS IN THE FIRST 2 ROUNDS!

i thought it was awesome lol

SteelersWoman
06-08-2007, 02:58 PM
I don't follow college football, so I had no idea who Woodley was until we got him--or Timmons, for that matter lol

Black@Gold Forever32
06-08-2007, 02:58 PM
yeah well i remember a bunch of WTF ARE YOU THINKING TAKING 2LINEBACKERS IN THE FIRST 2 ROUNDS!

i thought it was awesome lol

I was alittle shocked they took 2 OLB's in the first two rounds....But I wasn't that upset about it all...I wasn't thrilled with Timmons at first...I can confess that but the more I read about him the more I was impressed with Timmons.....He isn't your typical 3-4 OLB but he has alot of skills and brings alot to a defense period....Thats why I liked and when I read the coaches want use him like the Steelers use to Greg Lloyd in their dime defense then I liked the pick even more.

BlitzburghRockCity
06-08-2007, 03:07 PM
I don't remember most of us being pissed about taking 2 LB's, although I do remember being surprised by it, myself included. I remember most of us being pissed about Spaeth in the 3rd, again me included, but since then it's really turned into a potentially great pick for us.

K Train
06-08-2007, 03:13 PM
ok i was a fireball of rage when we took spaeth....but i calmed down after about 8 minutes and i liked the pick ok lol

25MVPKing
06-08-2007, 05:22 PM
I didn't think Timmons or Woodley would drop to us. I figured Timmons would be in the 6-12 range and Woodley would be late first/early second at the latest. Sometimes you just get lucky. I'm glad we have them both and have been since draft day. :bigthumb:

K Train
06-08-2007, 05:29 PM
i was happy

first round pick was a OLB and not adam carriker
and 4th round pick is a future HOF punter lol

SteelerSal
06-08-2007, 05:39 PM
i was happy

first round pick was a OLB and not adam carriker
and 4th round pick is a future HOF punter lol


You would of been happy if we took D-sep in the 1st round.:lol:

BlitzburghRockCity
06-08-2007, 07:39 PM
You would of been happy if we took D-sep in the 1st round.:lol:

:iagree: :plus1: :lol:

DIESELMAN
06-08-2007, 10:12 PM
I think most of us were more shocked with us taking Spaeth then anything. I was hoping for at least 2 D players on day 1. :bigthumb: