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BlitzburghRockCity
02-20-2007, 01:47 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07051/763473-66.stm


Tuesday, February 20, 2007
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The bonding experience continues for the new Steelers coaching staff and scouting department when they converge on Indianapolis starting Thursday.

Coach Mike Tomlin, hired one month ago today, and his staff have spent much of their time evaluating their players and potential free agents; now they have a chance to focus on this year's rookie crop when they camp out at the NFL Scouting Combine this week.

The Steelers have the 15th pick in the draft and the stakes and talent increase in the first half of the draft, something the team has not experienced since it selected Ben Roethlisberger with the 11th choice in 2004. It's the second highest the Steelers are scheduled to select in the past seven drafts.

For sure, they won't draft a quarterback with their first pick this year. After that, everything's open, said their resident draft expert.

"It's hard to see locking out any position high except quarterback. Really, we wouldn't do that," said Kevin Colbert, their football operations director.

That, he said, would include wide receiver, a position the Steelers have spent draft picks and money trying to upgrade the past two seasons.

Two years ago, their only significant signing in free agency was wide receiver Cedrick Wilson. Last year, they drafted two receivers in the higher rounds-- Santonio Holmes in the first and Willie Reid in the third.

That would not prevent the team from drafting a wide receiver with the 15th pick in April, Colbert said.

"At this point, I would say wide receiver is the strongest position," Colbert said of the draft. "After that, probably safety."

In spite of their recent attempts, the Steelers might not believe they have enough depth at wide receiver to use four of them on first and second downs, as new coordinator Bruce Arians has said he would like to deploy. Hines Ward and Holmes are the starters with Wilson and Nate Washington filling out the top four.

Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson is rated the top prospect in the draft by Tom Marino of scout.com. Coincidentally, the next receiver listed by Marino is Holmes' former Ohio State teammate Ted Ginn -- at 15th. Ginn, who injured his ankle celebrating his opening touchdown in the national championship game, will attend the Combine but will not run. They are two of four wide receivers listed in the top 32 by scout.com.

WR is a position most of us haven't even considered with our first round pick. That being said, as long as Willie Reid is recovering from his foot injury I gotta think we stay away from WR in the first round here. Perhaps with a compensatory pick maybe but I would think we have to give Willie Reid a chance to play and see what he can do going up against Nate and Cedric; not to mention Walter Young.

Koopa
02-20-2007, 02:09 AM
this years draft is gonna drive me nuts, it's the first year i don't know what to expect, years past you could tell what we were targeting, this year anything goes........ i wouldn't want ted ginn though, we'd have a midget wring core lol.........

TEEMONT
02-20-2007, 02:17 AM
If they draft a WR they need to make it someone who is going to replace Hines eventually. IMO we don't draft any WR's this year.

Ambridge
02-20-2007, 09:59 AM
OMG!!
I don't know if this old news but I heard on Sirius NFL Radio that the word is out that the Steelers(Tomlin) is looking at Defensive End with their first round pick.....in particular a player from Florida State??

If this is the case then Mr. Rooney needs to have a serious sit-down with Tomlin and draw a really clear picture for him that the team has other needs in particular the Offensive Line, Running back and linebacker.

Taking a DE would be a clear indication that Tomlin is drafting players to switch to the 4-3 sooner rather than later and totally ignoring the glaring needs.

I don't like the sound of this and I hope Colbert and The Rooney's set Tomlin straight.

BlackGold4vr
02-20-2007, 10:59 AM
If they draft a WR they need to make it someone who is going to replace Hines eventually. IMO we don't draft any WR's this year.

If they went with a WR I wouldn't mind seeing them pick up a big guy like a Dwayne Bowe (6'3 220lbs). Someone big enough that he could actually throw real blocks on end-around plays! Some of your bigger wideouts are also the ones who kick *** in yards after catch because they aren't as easy to bring down! Bowe had a big week at the senior bowl week! No doubt his display of talent at the senior bowl is what has put him up into the 1st or 2nd round! IMO I don't think they should even think WR until day 2. :scratch:

BlitzburghRockCity
02-20-2007, 11:01 AM
They could go with Jarvis Moss from Florida, or Lawrence Timmons from FSU; both of them could play OLB in a 34 or DE in a 43 , so that wouldn't really tip the hat in either direction because they are versatile.

BlackGold4vr
02-20-2007, 11:22 AM
They could go with Jarvis Moss from Florida, or Lawrence Timmons from FSU; both of them could play OLB in a 34 or DE in a 43 , so that wouldn't really tip the hat in either direction because they are versatile.

Neither one of these would be bad choices but I would hope they would move down to pick them! Don't think either one of these guys is a top 15 pick. If we lose Starks perhaps Ben Grubbs 6'3 318 OG from Auburn could be our pick. I heard they had Grubbs playing some center at senior week. He is listed at 16th overall on scout.coms rankings. He is listed as the top guard in the draft and 3rd overall lineman behind only Joe Thomas and Levi Brown. This guy could really sure up our offensive line and provide all sorts of alternatives to the coaches!

Heres what Todd McShay had to say about Grubbs following senior week!


Grubbs made it very clear that he's far and away the best guard prospect in the 2007 class.

AZ_Steeler
02-20-2007, 11:58 AM
OMG!!
I don't know if this old news but I heard on Sirius NFL Radio that the word is out that the Steelers(Tomlin) is looking at Defensive End with their first round pick.....in particular a player from Florida State??

If this is the case then Mr. Rooney needs to have a serious sit-down with Tomlin and draw a really clear picture for him that the team has other needs in particular the Offensive Line, Running back and linebacker.

Taking a DE would be a clear indication that Tomlin is drafting players to switch to the 4-3 sooner rather than later and totally ignoring the glaring needs.

I don't like the sound of this and I hope Colbert and The Rooney's set Tomlin straight.

If this is the case I hope someone sets him straight and lets him know who runs the show and how things are to be done in Pittsburgh!

As for Calvin Johnson, this is a play maker! I saw a couple of his games this season and the guys was in a league of his own and couldn't really be stopped. He felt like every time GT took the field it was a bomb to Johnson, or was doing his best Rice impersonation catching a quick slant and taking it tot he house. He would be really hard to pass up on but when you think about how many WR's have been drafted the last couple of years it almost sounds like a waste!

SteelersfaninPhilly
02-20-2007, 11:59 AM
Taking a DE would be a clear indication that Tomlin is drafting players to switch to the 4-3 sooner rather than later and totally ignoring the glaring needs.




Steelers scouts have been told to look for players that fit a 4-3 scheme. So yes you might be seeing a 4-3 alot sooner.

BlackGold4vr
02-20-2007, 12:37 PM
If this is the case then Mr. Rooney needs to have a serious sit-down with Tomlin and draw a really clear picture for him that the team has other needs in particular the Offensive Line, Running back and linebacker.

I don't like the sound of this and I hope Colbert and The Rooney's set Tomlin straight.

I don't want anybody setting our new coach straight! You hired him to lead the team so you had better trust his judgement. Perhaps you would like to switch GM's with San Diego? AJ Smith makes all the decisions there and if you disagree with him you're gone! I do NOT want a puppet coach and im quite certain that Tomlin did not take the job to be anybodies "boy"! We hired him to be our new leader, now let him lead! :nono:

TEEMONT
02-20-2007, 12:59 PM
If they went with a WR I wouldn't mind seeing them pick up a big guy like a Dwayne Bowe (6'3 220lbs). Someone big enough that he could actually throw real blocks on end-around plays! Some of your bigger wideouts are also the ones who kick *** in yards after catch because they aren't as easy to bring down! Bowe had a big week at the senior bowl week! No doubt his display of talent at the senior bowl is what has put him up into the 1st or 2nd round! IMO I don't think they should even think WR until day 2. :scratch:

Good point, I honestly didn't even think of that, Ben does need another big target, besides Heath (who needs to be thrown too more often).

kgreen
02-20-2007, 01:01 PM
What could be more fun, than not knowing what to expect? I mean this going to be interesting (not suprising like last year). I will defanitly watch with interest and intrigue this year. I am excited to see what Tomlin will bring.:helmet:

Black@Gold Forever32
02-20-2007, 03:36 PM
They could go with Jarvis Moss from Florida, or Lawrence Timmons from FSU; both of them could play OLB in a 34 or DE in a 43 , so that wouldn't really tip the hat in either direction because they are versatile.

Timmons might want to put some weight if we want him to play DE in a 4-3 Top. He is only listed at 230 pounds.:bluelol: Thats alittle on a the light side to play DE in the NFL.

Black@Gold Forever32
02-20-2007, 03:39 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07051/763473-66.stm



WR is a position most of us haven't even considered with our first round pick. That being said, as long as Willie Reid is recovering from his foot injury I gotta think we stay away from WR in the first round here. Perhaps with a compensatory pick maybe but I would think we have to give Willie Reid a chance to play and see what he can do going up against Nate and Cedric; not to mention Walter Young.

Ok I said from dayone and I always say it. You draft the best available player in each round when its your time to pick. So no I wouldn't rule out WR in round if a WR is the top rated player at the time the Steelers pick.

Personally if Okoye isn't there I say trade down in round one and draft Spencer. But if the Steelers stay at 15 you draft best player available.

Except QB like the article says. Of course K and P also. Plus I would include TE since the Steelers don't even use Heath Miller.:bluelol:

DIESELMAN
02-20-2007, 04:06 PM
I don't see us grabbing a WR in the first round. Day 1? maybe, there will still be some talent with height available even in rd 3. I'm still hoping for OLB/DE for our first pick...anything can happen between now and then.

BB2W
02-21-2007, 10:44 AM
By Teresa Varley
Steelers.com

The Steelers football staff, including coaches, scouts, trainers and more, will be in Indianapolis this week for the annual NFL Scouting Combine. They will join the rest of the NFL world in evaluating over 330 college players who are eligible for this year's draft.

The combine initially began as an opportunity for players to be given physicals without them having to have individual physicals by all 32 teams. It has grown considerably since its inception.

"The main function is for medical evaluation," said director of football operations Kevin Colbert. "From the medical evaluation grew the on-field timing and testing. From that grew the off-field interviews. It's gotten bigger and bigger. The core, though, is the medical."

The combine is an excellent opportunity to get another look at players that the Steelers have been evaluating all season, to time and test them, but it's not the main factor in judging a player for the draft.

"I always tell players that 90% of their evaluation is based on what they did from August until January," said Colbert. "Now we get at the combine and we find out what kind of people they are, how healthy they are. The workout is just icing on the cake.

"If a good player works out good, that's great. If a good player doesn't work out great it doesn't change your opinion that he is still a good player. If an average player works out great you would make a mistake by running that player up the board based on a workout."

Two of the aspects that are helpful for the Steelers at the combine are the one-on-one interviews with the players and the psychological evaluations. The Steelers administer a psychological evaluation to all the players who attend the combine, with the results evaluated by a psychologist. They got a jump start on it by giving it to the players who attend the All-Star games. They only have about 100 players to still administer it to at the combine.

"Everybody has different philosophies," said Colbert. "Some people don't use a psychologist, don't use an evaluation. It's just a team preference. It's something we are comfortable with because we are comfortable with the results and the information it gives us. It's a guide. It's not the end-all, be-all.

"It's an indicator of what we think this guy's personality is both on and off the field. We get the opinion of the psychologist on the bottom line of what kind of person this guy is, what kind of competitor he is and how he is going to react both on and off the field

link: http://news.steelers.com/article/74096/

SteelersWoman
02-21-2007, 01:22 PM
I don't want anybody setting our new coach straight! You hired him to lead the team so you had better trust his judgement. Perhaps you would like to switch GM's with San Diego? AJ Smith makes all the decisions there and if you disagree with him you're gone! I do NOT want a puppet coach and im quite certain that Tomlin did not take the job to be anybodies "boy"! We hired him to be our new leader, now let him lead! :nono:

That's my feelings exactly ^ :plus1: The HC position is just a vaccuum for money otherwise, and should be done away with.

Mike's the HC now, so he needs to make his own decisions on his vision of where he sees our team heading, and make the necessary adjustments for it.

BBG7
02-21-2007, 02:07 PM
I know him and the Rooney's have discussed this and Mike knows that this is his team. Yes, things are going to be different, but we have to let him have the control he needs...this is his team now...it's not Cowhers team anymore!

steelcurtaingal
02-22-2007, 09:31 AM
blackgold4vr, couldnt agree with you more. it's not Cowher's draft, its tomlins. And here in pittsburgh we have to be open to the changes he will make. i cant wait either!
scgal