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PSYCHO STEELER
05-08-2014, 06:08 PM
Please wait till draft starts to yap

igor0190
05-08-2014, 08:18 PM
Clowney and JJ Watt on the field together... scary.

Greg Robinson and Jake Long at tackle... also scary.

Stone
05-08-2014, 08:31 PM
Bortels is the first QB to go.....Jax

coldrolled
05-08-2014, 08:32 PM
Bortles wont be a Brown... I knew Jax would pick him..

igor0190
05-08-2014, 08:37 PM
I'm happy to see the Browns not get Sammy Watkins there, but that is a good trade for their team unfortunately.

Stone
05-08-2014, 08:39 PM
I'm happy to see the Browns not get Sammy Watkins there, but that is a good trade for their team unfortunately.

Don't worry, it's the Browns

coldrolled
05-08-2014, 08:41 PM
Browns could have sent us Ebron.. with that trade.

Big T
05-08-2014, 09:07 PM
How "Browns" of the Browns... I was sure they were goin Manziel and I was pissed.

igor0190
05-08-2014, 09:09 PM
Clowns take Justin Gilbert... Let's see if Vikes or Lions take a corner. Dennard and Fuller could be gone if there's a run.
If that happens I hope we take Odell Beckham, or at least hope he's there so we can get some good value in a trade down.

Stone
05-08-2014, 09:09 PM
How "Browns" of the Browns... I was sure they were goin Manziel and I was pissed.
Don't worry, it's the Browns

zoneblitz80
05-08-2014, 09:11 PM
Personally I'm glad the browns drafted gilbert he's not physical enough

igor0190
05-08-2014, 09:18 PM
4 picks to go...

Lewan, Dennard, Fuller, Odell Beckham, Mosley?

SuperSteelers
05-08-2014, 09:18 PM
The Browns are what we thought they were. Same ole crap, just a different year.

LevonKirkland99
05-08-2014, 09:22 PM
The Browns blew it....Gilbert?

zoneblitz80
05-08-2014, 09:23 PM
Same crap different toilet

igor0190
05-08-2014, 09:23 PM
The Browns blew it....Gilbert?

Yeah, a little bit of a reach but he was the #1 corner going in according to most about a month ago.

Stone
05-08-2014, 09:26 PM
The Browns could have the first ten picks in the draft for the next five years and still not make the playoffs. It's Cleveland

coldrolled
05-08-2014, 09:27 PM
Barr-out - Ebron-out - Mosley still left.

Beckham - Fuller or Kelvin?

Stone
05-08-2014, 09:34 PM
Donald from Pitt?

igor0190
05-08-2014, 09:40 PM
Bears on the clock... One more pick before the Steelers... I'm betting were trying to trade down right now.

On The Board:
CB: Darquese Dennard, Kyle Fuller
WR: Kelvin Benjamin, Marqise Lee, Brandin Cooks
OT: Zack Martin, Morgan Moses
LB: CJ Mosley, Ryan Shazier
S: Calvin Pryor, Haha Clinton Dix

Stone
05-08-2014, 09:43 PM
Why would we trade down? There is a ton of talent left.

Stone
05-08-2014, 09:45 PM
Martin is the #1 rated OG??????? Or Mosley?????

igor0190
05-08-2014, 09:45 PM
Why would we trade down? There is a ton of talent left.

Exactly, ton of talent left and we could use some extra picks.

They made their pick real fast... Here it is..

Stone
05-08-2014, 09:47 PM
Exactly, ton of talent left and we could use some extra picks.

Sorry.....my bad.....I thought you meant up?

LevonKirkland99
05-08-2014, 09:49 PM
Shazier?????????????

JensK
05-08-2014, 09:49 PM
Did not see that coming

igor0190
05-08-2014, 09:50 PM
Wow...
That is freakishly fast for a MLB... Does he fit next to Timmons?

coldrolled
05-08-2014, 09:50 PM
Barr-out - Ebron-out - Mosley still left.

Beckham - Fuller or Kelvin?

Shazier over Mosley i like it either way we need the ILB to cover

greennick
05-08-2014, 09:51 PM
Did not see that coming

Yep, did not come to us on any mock I read...

TarlsQtr
05-08-2014, 09:52 PM
Ohio State guy again. Will he be able to participate in the May camps?

Big T
05-08-2014, 09:53 PM
Surprised me but I don't dislike it. I was hoping Dennard, but now we have a young, crazy athletic LB core. Shazier can cover. Move Timmons to buck?

acero
05-08-2014, 09:57 PM
chronic harmstring guy

i hate the pick

igor0190
05-08-2014, 10:00 PM
chronic harmstring guy

i hate the pick

If I recall correctly, Timmons was a hamstring guy too. That's what you get with speed, some pulled hammies.

PSYCHO STEELER
05-08-2014, 10:01 PM
Wow! Surprise Surprise! I think we could have moved down and got him, but you know what ? It's still a good pick. 4.38 speed

norcojim
05-08-2014, 10:02 PM
chronic harmstring guy

i hate the pick

Another Ohio State bum. Holmes, Adams, Heyward. Go Colbert go!

DanRooney
05-08-2014, 10:04 PM
Just plain awful. This was a terrible pick and a hell of a reach. I haven't felt this bad since we drafted Hood.

DanRooney
05-08-2014, 10:08 PM
Least that Vince Williams bum goes back to the bench.

steelchamp204
05-08-2014, 10:12 PM
Bad pick

NeilPatrickBanana
05-08-2014, 10:13 PM
Surprised me but I don't dislike it. I was hoping Dennard, but now we have a young, crazy athletic LB core. Shazier can cover. Move Timmons to buck?

either Timmons moves to Buck, or Shazier moves outside and Jarvis moves to Buck
Or Worrilds walks, and Shazier replaces him

still... luxury picks are not how you build a football team....

I love Shazier... but passing on Dennard means they've learned nothing... and intend to be the same defense they've always been, even though no one is winning playing that way anymore...

zoneblitz80
05-08-2014, 10:16 PM
So its a bad pick because its not who you wanted? Let the young man play before you judge him. You can't teach speed

coldrolled
05-08-2014, 10:17 PM
Build the Front 7 !!!!! Why Shazier over Mosley?? Wonderlic? Dont know...

Well... we will see twice a year who pans out better.

SteelCityKid5
05-08-2014, 10:17 PM
I like the pick. CBs and WRs are a dime a dozen in the draft. The Stees havent selected a corner in the 1st round since Woodson (I believe). The guy has the same measurables as Foote, Timmons and Kendrell Bell at their respective pro days. Our ILBs were dick and this adds at least depth and a possible playmaker. They'll get a CB in later rounds most likely 2nd. Faster, slimmer, cover LBs are the way to go nowadays.

Big T
05-08-2014, 10:21 PM
either Timmons moves to Buck, or Shazier moves outside and Jarvis moves to Buck
Or Worrilds walks, and Shazier replaces him

still... luxury picks are not how you build a football team....

I love Shazier... but passing on Dennard means they've learned nothing... and intend to be the same defense they've always been, even though no one is winning playing that way anymore...

No I get it. I go Dennard every time over Shazier.

norcojim
05-08-2014, 10:26 PM
Don't you get tired of letting the young men play before they are judged as stinko. How many years does the same thing have to happen before the clowns at the top realize this guy is giving us no chance. If it hadn't been for Rooney stepping in years ago and insisting on the drafting of Rothlisberger can you imagine where we would have been. We are so lucky to have been in the playoffs year after year and something to root for in spite of what Colbert and his clowns have done to the team.

steelchamp204
05-08-2014, 10:30 PM
Don't you get tired of letting the young men play before they are judged as stinko. How many years does the same thing have to happen before the clowns at the top realize this guy is giving us no chance. If it hadn't been for Rooney stepping in years ago and insisting on the drafting of Rothlisberger can you imagine where we would have been. We are so lucky to have been in the playoffs year after year and something to root for in spite of what Colbert and his clowns have done to the team.

Is this your first draft? Happens every year.

Just like last year when me and NBP said that Jarvis Jones first step is very slow and will hinder him in the pass rushing category. AND....It showed his rookie season. He should improve this season.

cali_fan
05-08-2014, 10:31 PM
I honestly don't know how to feel yet.
I wanted a CB but we need a LB.
We'll see soon

SCR
05-08-2014, 10:35 PM
Don't you get tired of letting the young men play before they are judged as stinko. How many years does the same thing have to happen before the clowns at the top realize this guy is giving us no chance. If it hadn't been for Rooney stepping in years ago and insisting on the drafting of Rothlisberger can you imagine where we would have been. We are so lucky to have been in the playoffs year after year and something to root for in spite of what Colbert and his clowns have done to the team.

I'm not sure if this is satire or what. For your sake, I'm going to believe that this is satire.

LevonKirkland99
05-08-2014, 10:37 PM
Crappy pick..hell if a reach...once again Colbert needs to go...disappointing...Dennard was right there.

TarlsQtr
05-08-2014, 10:38 PM
A lot of this comes down to value. The FO may have a plan, for example, of a LB, DL, and CB in the first three rounds. They may feel they can get a specific CB or DE in round 2 or 3 with less than a drop off than what they would see at ILB.

steelchamp204
05-08-2014, 10:38 PM
Crappy pick..hell if a reach...once again Colbert needs to go...disappointing...Dennard was right there.

I think EVERYONE in Steelers nation was say "Dennard" then when they said Shazier, there were a ton of....WHAT THE ****S!!

Big T
05-08-2014, 10:43 PM
Damn. Nice job Cleveland. I don't like it. Cleveland is gonna be tough.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 10:44 PM
People....

We are not the only one's to pass on Dennard. There is a reason Dennard is sliding. In a pass happy league, they are letting the supposed # 1 CB slide??? There is something that player personnel across the board feel is a negative about Dennard.

Big T
05-08-2014, 10:46 PM
People....

We are not the only one's to pass on Dennard. There is a reason Dennard is sliding. In a pass happy league, they are letting the supposed # 1 CB slide??? There is something that player personnel across the board feel is a negative about Dennard.

It has to be something.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 10:46 PM
Damn. Nice job Cleveland. I don't like it. Cleveland is gonna be tough.

The next three teams behind the Browns need WR's. A run could start here.

KemoTherapy
05-08-2014, 10:46 PM
Poor Johnny F. Going to the brown stains lol.

LevonKirkland99
05-08-2014, 10:48 PM
Yeah, I was actually happy for Cleveland.

steelchamp204
05-08-2014, 10:49 PM
JOHNNY FOOTBALL WILL BE A BUST!!!!! Bring back James Harrison, even if it's only against the STAINS!!!! He can pull what he did on Colt McCoy

igor0190
05-08-2014, 10:50 PM
Johnny Football can now be called Johnny Dog Poop

LevonKirkland99
05-08-2014, 10:59 PM
Good pick for the Bengals...

LevonKirkland99
05-08-2014, 11:00 PM
Johnny Football can now be called Johnny Dog Poop
Weird comment!

norcojim
05-08-2014, 11:00 PM
Well we will learn first hand if we made a mistake on Denard with the Bengals taking him!

LevonKirkland99
05-08-2014, 11:02 PM
People....

We are not the only one's to pass on Dennard. There is a reason Dennard is sliding. In a pass happy league, they are letting the supposed # 1 CB slide??? There is something that player personnel across the board feel is a negative about Dennard.

Nothing wrong with the kid. Just Colbert doing his do called magic.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:05 PM
I think Colbert may have had his bubble busted when the Bears took Fuller just before us.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:06 PM
Colbert's going to take the heat on this because the Kid won't be a serious contributor on defense this coming season. Colbert needs a good pick in the second round.

igor0190
05-08-2014, 11:08 PM
Colbert's going to take the heat on this because the Kid won't be a serious contributor on defense this coming season. Colbert needs a good pick in the second round.

Colbert should take serious heat if Shazier is not a serious contributor year 1. He has little competition. If Vince Williams beats him out for the other ILB job then Steelers fans everywhere will be pissed off.

... Hoping we can somehow trade up and get Kelvin Benjamin if he falls into the second.

Big T
05-08-2014, 11:21 PM
Dammit Carolina. There goes my man crush.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:24 PM
Carolina is actually a good fit for Benjamin. Newton, buying time can only help Benjamin get open. Especially in the red zone.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:26 PM
Patriots got a steal in Easley. I was quietly hoping he'd fall farther.

Big T
05-08-2014, 11:29 PM
Patriots got a steal in Easley. I was quietly hoping he'd fall farther.

I always thought if he's completely healthy, then he's undoubtably a first round pick. I didn't think he'd go first but dude can ball...

No gator bias lol

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:31 PM
I'm quietly watching Jordan Matthews now. But I see Nix and Tuiit still on the board. Going to be tough just watching. It hurt when the Bears took Fuller from us.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:32 PM
49ers are stock piling at that safety position. They act like their going to make a trade or something.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:35 PM
Houston has just traded up to the bottom of the first round. They must be after Bridgewater.

Big T
05-08-2014, 11:35 PM
Odd pick. I love me some Jimmie Ward but they drafted Eric Reid last year and just signed Bethea to play SS. Idk...

JackLambert
05-08-2014, 11:36 PM
We have huge needs at DL, CB, and WR ... aaaaaaaaaaaaand badly reached for the wrong LB.

That was depressing. Colbert soiled his pants when Fuller went to Chitown.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:37 PM
Odd pick. I love me some Jimmie Ward but they drafted Eric Reid last year and just signed Bethea to play SS. Idk...

Maybe their letting him take over for hands of stone Carlos Rodgers in the slot? But he's versitle and that's what you want.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:38 PM
We have huge needs at DL, CB, and WR ... aaaaaaaaaaaaand badly reached for the wrong LB.

That was depressing. Colbert soiled his pants when Fuller went to Chitown.

We really need another 2nd round pick. I'd love to somehow come away with Nix and Matthews/Robinson/Latimere

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:38 PM
Roby fell all the way to the Broncos. I"m sick.

Big T
05-08-2014, 11:42 PM
Maybe their letting him take over for hands of stone Carlos Rodgers in the slot? But he's versitle and that's what you want.

He can definitely play in the slot.

Big T
05-08-2014, 11:44 PM
Minny going Teddy? Watch them blow it and go Carr lol

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:48 PM
I trust Norv Turner when it comes to QB's. Norv's resume is arguably the best in the league. No doubt Norv had a ton of say so in this and if Turner says he can make Bridgewater a star, who's to argue.

Real Deal Steel
05-08-2014, 11:49 PM
Bridgewater is in a good spot to be a star. Good teacher and the fan base is starving for a savior. And this is who Peterson wanted a few months ago too.

JackLambert
05-08-2014, 11:50 PM
We really need another 2nd round pick. I'd love to somehow come away with Nix and Matthews/Robinson/Latimere

Yeah, we need all the 2nds we can get after that mess.

steelchamp204
05-08-2014, 11:55 PM
I like Shazier, but I'm still in shock they passed on Dennard. I am actually stunned.

TarlsQtr
05-08-2014, 11:57 PM
Lol I honestly believe that most here have not seen Shazier play. You can argue need, but he is not some 2-3 round guy.

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TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 12:07 AM
Would Shazier be seen as such a poor choice if Stanley Jean-Baptiste fell to us in round 2?

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JackLambert
05-09-2014, 12:07 AM
Lol I honestly believe that most here have not seen Shazier play. You can argue need, but he is not some 2-3 round guy.

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He's a late first and a terrible idea here.

igor0190
05-09-2014, 12:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmT5sX7G3xk

NeilPatrickBanana
05-09-2014, 12:09 AM
Lol I honestly believe that most here have not seen Shazier play. You can argue need, but he is not some 2-3 round guy.

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agreed.

I wanted Dennard. And I believe in drafting for need (given relatively equal talent levels). But Shazier is an elite prospect. I had him as high as #11 on my board, and he finished #14 on my board.

I was a downer on the Jarvis pick, because he lacked the most important skill you need in a LBer... explosion.

Shazier is as explosive as they get.

NeilPatrickBanana
05-09-2014, 12:11 AM
Would Shazier be seen as such a poor choice if Stanley Jean-Baptiste fell to us in round 2?

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Shazier would be a better choice if we took Patterson last year

igor0190
05-09-2014, 12:17 AM
Shazier would be a better choice if we took Patterson last year
LOL

Sadly, we can improve the Defence and put a good product on the field but will still consistently get outscored if we don't add some damn talented pass catchers. Hell, maybe Sefarian-Jenkins or Jace Amaro in the second?

Big T
05-09-2014, 01:09 AM
I'd love ASJ at 46, not a huge fan of Amaro but he'd have value there if ASJ was gone. Hell, maybe Marqise Lee falls to 46 (doubtful, but I didn't think he'd fall to the 2nd). There's a lot of great receiver talent on the board. They should be in great position to draft one... Lee, Matthews, Robinson, Latimer, Adams... Tuitt, Nix, and Hageman are atill available. Shazier took a few guys off the board for me that I would've liked in the second (Van Noy, Attaochu).

Steeltrap
05-09-2014, 06:01 AM
I wonder how many offers did Colbert have to trade down? Maybe not many because of Beckham going off the board to the Giants.

cbrunn
05-09-2014, 06:30 AM
As much as I love the dline help left there are guys later there (will Clarke, Justin Ellis, Zach Kerr, Ed stinson, beau allen, ... Same as WR)

I just couldn't see myself passing up on in this order
Marquis Lee
Allen Robinson
Pierre Desir

If those 3 are fine than the dline help

LevonKirkland99
05-09-2014, 09:05 AM
Colbert's going to take the heat on this because the Kid won't be a serious contributor on defense this coming season. Colbert needs a good pick in the second round.

Colbert is an idiot... He should have picked Cornerback, which was a no-brainer choice. All these ISU first draft pick haven't amounted to anything!!

coldrolled
05-09-2014, 09:14 AM
Colbert is an idiot... He should have picked Cornerback, which was a no-brainer choice. All these ISU first draft pick haven't amounted to anything!!

I think Chicago ruined it for the CB in the first. I bet Fuller was our guy at that position. Dennard was really noones guy.

LatrobePA
05-09-2014, 09:21 AM
Cinci's guy now...

coldrolled
05-09-2014, 09:30 AM
Cinci's guy now...

we will watch brown and wheaton smoke him... then maybe even moncrief or latimer Miller too.. lol

LevonKirkland99
05-09-2014, 09:52 AM
People down on Jarvis Jones??? Come on guys...Jones will have a monster 2014 year.

LevonKirkland99
05-09-2014, 09:56 AM
@Colrolled: I thought Dennard was better than Fuller...the later seems undersized...DD would have fit our system perfectly....I really think we blew it in this round.

JensK
05-09-2014, 09:59 AM
@Colrolled: I thought Dennard was better than Fuller...the later seems undersized...DD would have fit our system perfectly....I really think we blew it in this round.

Untrue. Dennard is a man-press coverage type of CB. We are a zone-type team. Fuller is a better zone CB than Dennard.

That said, Dennard woulda done well in Pittsburgh.

coldrolled
05-09-2014, 10:02 AM
@Colrolled: I thought Dennard was better than Fuller...the later seems undersized...DD would have fit our system perfectly....I really think we blew it in this round.

I was not a fan, but im not a pro evaluator either... I think Desir would be good... but he will not see #46

Plus we still need to build the front 7.... Hageman, Tuitt maybe.. But then ben needs a tall WR... this is why we now sit on the horns of a dilema.. WR, DL, CB in one pick... I think the really good WR's with height are gone in 2... So i think WR.

Steeltrap
05-09-2014, 10:11 AM
Cody Latimer, Jordan Matthews, Allen Robinson,

There are some really good wide receivers left. I like the idea of taking a guy like Latimer, putting him on the outside and possibly putting Wheaton in the slot, making Wheaton work that slot in the manner that Wallace did when he exploded onto the map.

KemoTherapy
05-09-2014, 11:09 AM
Anybody else heard the "tall wide receiver" tag one too many times?.

coldrolled
05-09-2014, 11:24 AM
Anybody else heard the "tall wide receiver" tag one too many times?.

Probably because Ben has been in many articles over the last few years talking about it? He is our 100 million dollar man, we should listen a bit to him, at least the fans should. lol

Steeltrap
05-09-2014, 11:30 AM
Probably because Ben has been in many articles over the last few years talking about it? He is our 100 million dollar man, we should listen a bit to him, at least the fans should. lol

We have a franchise QB. We have to maximize him while he's still in his prime. If Ben says he needs a big, red zone WR, why not accommodate him?

JensK
05-09-2014, 07:47 PM
Thats Hageman and Lee gone! :(

igor0190
05-09-2014, 07:57 PM
Rams take Lamarcus Joyner
Jordan Matthews gone to the Eagles

igor0190
05-09-2014, 08:05 PM
They're three picks behind right now. Steelers are on the clock.

Way to screw it up NFL. I have a PVR if I want to watch a delayed draft.

igor0190
05-09-2014, 08:16 PM
Steelers take STEPHON TUITT!

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 08:21 PM
Steelers take STEPHON TUITT!

Love it. First round talent in an area of great need.

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ChucktownSteeler
05-09-2014, 08:30 PM
Anybody else heard the "tall wide receiver" tag one too many times?.

Limas Sweed is tall.

Steeltrap
05-09-2014, 09:09 PM
Here's a tag for you:

Broncos just drafted Cody Latimar. WOW.

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 09:15 PM
Wow, how did Ealy fall all the way to 60? What a pick up for Carolina.

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 09:18 PM
Really nice job by Jax recovering, taking Lee AND Robinson.

igor0190
05-09-2014, 09:19 PM
Wow, how did Ealy fall all the way to 60? What a pick up for Carolina.

Yeah, and the Panthers got Kelvin Benjamin in round 1. They're having one of the better drafts for sure.

coldrolled
05-09-2014, 09:20 PM
Shazier and Tuitt are defense will be fine Ike is happy

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 10:22 PM
Sooooooo........


There is absolutely no way Nix makes it past the Bears, Texans and Patriots, but if he did there is no way we can take him .......



is there?

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 10:24 PM
Raiders are really doing well, wtf?

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 10:27 PM
Gone to Texans.

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 10:27 PM
I would have taken him.

NeilPatrickBanana
05-09-2014, 10:29 PM
I would have taken him.

So glad we didn't

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 10:31 PM
I'm kind of glad we don't have to worry about it now. If Bryant is there, that's my guy, speaking from the "big target" camp. If he's gone I'm hoping for CB, McGill time? Desir?

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 10:34 PM
So glad we didn't

I knew you would not and there is a good argument for that. However, a first round talent at the bottom of three. I could not pass up. Our DL would be set for a long time.

What now? Moncrief? Bryant? Philip Gaines? Do we get Watkins after all? (Older brother Jaylen)

NeilPatrickBanana
05-09-2014, 10:39 PM
I knew you would not and there is a good argument for that. However, a first round talent at the bottom of three. I could not pass up. Our DL would be set for a long time.

What now? Moncrief? Bryant? Philip Gaines? Do we get Watkins after all? (Older brother Jaylen)

You know who I want

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 10:40 PM
You know who I want

Would he know because you are him and he is you?

NeilPatrickBanana
05-09-2014, 10:42 PM
Would he know because you are him and he is you?

Obviously

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 10:49 PM
Moncrief gone

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 10:50 PM
Just hoping for Bryant or McGill at this point.

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 10:50 PM
Bryant still there...

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 10:53 PM
Carolina wouldn't throw him opposite of Benjamin.......


would they?

Ugh, them and the Pats......screwed.

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 10:59 PM
Cleveland trade.......:sadface:

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 10:59 PM
They will take him.

NeilPatrickBanana
05-09-2014, 11:02 PM
They will take him.

They passed!

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 11:02 PM
I am speechless.

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 11:03 PM
Minnesota last hurdle

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 11:04 PM
They passed!

Worst run organization in the history of sport.

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 11:10 PM
quick pick.......

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 11:10 PM
He cleared Minny...

NeilPatrickBanana
05-09-2014, 11:11 PM
quick pick.......

So annoyed...

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 11:13 PM
I never would have guessed him there.

Big T
05-09-2014, 11:14 PM
I know everyone wanted Bryant but I really like Dri Archer. Now we can finally take our #1 receiver off punt returns haha.

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 11:14 PM
now I'm the speechless one
Here Ratbirds will take him.

TarlsQtr
05-09-2014, 11:16 PM
At the very least, Archer will be an excellent return guy. I am a little perplexed though. I know Haley coveted him, but we have a bubble screen guy.

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 11:16 PM
I know everyone wanted Bryant but I really like Dri Archer. Now we can finally take our #1 receiver off punt returns haha.

You can do that with anyone, wtf did we pickup Bey for? I guess He's our big WR acquisition this offseason.

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 11:20 PM
I'm actually livid now. How, tell me how things could have broken any better for us, and we reach for a return guy.

NeilPatrickBanana
05-09-2014, 11:20 PM
You can do that with anyone, wtf did we pickup Bey for? I guess He's our big WR acquisition this offseason.

Every year a new tiny or 2 get drafted, get the Sproles label, and become nobodies.

KemoTherapy
05-09-2014, 11:24 PM
Great, a new smurf waterboy. Even I would have accepted the trendy "big wide receiver" over this guy who'll get broken in half when a guard farts on him.

WindyCityShaker
05-09-2014, 11:25 PM
I'd be less upset if they took Freeman there (but not really). We better trade the **** up, at this point I'm on the ledge and desperate.

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 12:09 AM
Get a CB in the 4th (there are at least 3 that would be acceptable to me) and the use one of the 5th rounders to take Aaron Colvin who would be the franchise CB of the future.

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 12:16 AM
Or do we use a 5 to move up in 4 and take Bryant?

Real Deal Steel
05-10-2014, 12:18 AM
I know everyone wanted Bryant but I really like Dri Archer. Now we can finally take our #1 receiver off punt returns haha.

That's the only good thing about the pick but those guys are found in the the 5th round. Not 3rd. If this were a 5th round selection it would be okay.

WindyCityShaker
05-10-2014, 12:34 AM
Or do we use a 5 to move up in 4 and take Bryant?

1. I've been preaching for a 5th to be used on Colvin, should he make it that far. Upon a closer look, I'm not as sold as I once was, however that wouldn't stop me from trying to get him on the cheap.

2. I think I would do whatever it takes to get Bryant, he's so much better than Coleman. I still want a good corner though, and giving up a 5 makes it so difficult to get a good one. Either make the move and double dip at corner in 5th and 6th Roberson/DJohnson/Purifoy/Colvin......(not sure who else would be there), or take McGill if he makes it to us. I really want Bryant though.

LastRide
05-10-2014, 12:48 AM
I think they want to use Dri as a slot receiver. Quick little slant passes. Goodluck trying to catch him after. The Pats ripped us apart and other teams using Welker for those quick passes and slow guys like Foot can't cover or catch them.

Big T
05-10-2014, 01:08 AM
That's the only good thing about the pick but those guys are found in the the 5th round. Not 3rd. If this were a 5th round selection it would be okay.

The Rams took Tavon Austin 8th overall last year. Tavon is an inch taller and weighs the same as archer (skinnier) and also ran the 40 almost a tenth of a second slower than Archer (Archer 4.26, Austin 4.34)... Archer isn't a full time RB but he has good hands, can play in the slot, stretch the field a bit, get in on reverses and screens and be an elite return guy. If Austin is worth the 8th overall pick, there's no reason Archer can't go 89 picks later. If they make it a point to get him touches in space on offense (slot reciever, reverses, screens) he'll be well worth the pick. Not to mention the fact that he's an excellent return man. The man also put up 225 20 times at the combine. I know his arms are longer, but just as a reference, Khalil Mack put up 23.

If they end up with someone like Bryant, Desir, or McGill in the 4th all will be forgiven

JackLambert
05-10-2014, 08:43 AM
Ugh. Please add a Corner or two. I really like the players they've taken but just feel like they continue to ignore the biggest need. No doubt Shazier is a player and Tuitt in Rd.2 is great. I'd have been okay with Archer on Day 3 but don't like him in the 3rd. Whatever. They have not used high picks on CBs in recent years, they let Lewis walk away, and they don't sign CBs in FA.

JackLambert
05-10-2014, 08:45 AM
The Rams took Tavon Austin 8th overall last year. Tavon is an inch taller and weighs the same as archer (skinnier) and also ran the 40 almost a tenth of a second slower than Archer (Archer 4.26, Austin 4.34)... Archer isn't a full time RB but he has good hands, can play in the slot, stretch the field a bit, get in on reverses and screens and be an elite return guy. If Austin is worth the 8th overall pick, there's no reason Archer can't go 89 picks later. If they make it a point to get him touches in space on offense (slot reciever, reverses, screens) he'll be well worth the pick. Not to mention the fact that he's an excellent return man. The man also put up 225 20 times at the combine. I know his arms are longer, but just as a reference, Khalil Mack put up 23.

If they end up with someone like Bryant, Desir, or McGill in the 4th all will be forgiven

Good post, T. 20 reps is impressive!

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 08:57 AM
Ugh. Please add a Corner or two. I really like the players they've taken but just feel like they continue to ignore the biggest need. No doubt Shazier is a player and Tuitt in Rd.2 is great. I'd have been okay with Archer on Day 3 but don't like him in the 3rd. Whatever. They have not used high picks on CBs in recent years, they let Lewis walk away, and they don't sign CBs in FA.

There are still good CBs to be had. A couple have been mentioned and I would add Jaylen Watkins.

coldrolled
05-10-2014, 09:51 AM
There are still good CBs to be had. A couple have been mentioned and I would add Jaylen Watkins.

2 CB's in the fifth. after our WR pick

JackLambert
05-10-2014, 10:18 AM
There are still good CBs to be had. A couple have been mentioned and I would add Jaylen Watkins.

Who are your five best available?

I like McGill, Watkins, Desir, Roberson, and Aikens.

All of them are 6' and over, too.

Forgive me, I just hated seeing Lewis leave and really liked Dennard. :)

WindyCityShaker
05-10-2014, 11:04 AM
If they end up with someone like Bryant, Desir, or McGill in the 4th all will be forgiven

This much is true, I would have just much rather had Bryant in our pocket for sure. If he's gone (which I believe he will be), then you've just gotta grab whoever is left of McGill/Watkins/Desir.

Big T
05-10-2014, 12:15 PM
I don't think Bryant makes it past the Jets twice before we pick. Really hoping he or Desir are there or us. I really like Desir.

cbrunn
05-10-2014, 12:33 PM
If get Desir in the 4th ... this draft has been a A++++

Desir is going to be special

Draft Colvin or Jerome Couplin III in the 5th

Big T
05-10-2014, 12:44 PM
If get Desir in the 4th ... this draft has been a A++++

Desir is going to be special

Draft Colvin or Jerome Couplin III in the 5th

I really like Desir too. He and Bryant would be good value picks here.

Wouldn't be upset with McGill either if Desir is gone

Big T
05-10-2014, 12:47 PM
If get Desir in the 4th ... this draft has been a A++++

Desir is going to be special

Draft Colvin or Jerome Couplin III in the 5th

There goes Colvin to the Jags. Good pick. Would've been gone much sooner had he not been injured.

Big T
05-10-2014, 12:57 PM
McGill to the Raiders. Good pick. Bryant and Desir still on the board with only Chicago in front of us. At least one of them will be there lol.

Big T
05-10-2014, 01:02 PM
Boom! Bryant! Anyone upset about spending a 4th on Archer? Lol

cbrunn
05-10-2014, 01:05 PM
I really wanted Desir - but maybe in the 5th? ... supposedly he's stupid and teams question footwork and speed

Stone
05-10-2014, 01:06 PM
I really wanted Desir - but maybe in the 5th? ... supposedly he's stupid and teams question footwork and speed

Bad and dumb is a lousy combination:lol:

Big T
05-10-2014, 01:09 PM
I really wanted Desir - but maybe in the 5th? ... supposedly he's stupid and teams question footwork and speed

I don't think intelligence is a problem with Desir. I think the biggest knock on him is that he played at Lindenwood

cbrunn
05-10-2014, 01:09 PM
Bad and dumb is a lousy combination:lol:

He's not bad ... he's a great kid , maybe just stupid ..he's a great character and his story is crazy

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2048118-for-nfl-prospect-pierre-desir-its-always-been-fatherhood-then-football
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1937585-lindenwood-cb-pierre-desir-is-motivated-by-his-family

cbrunn
05-10-2014, 01:11 PM
I don't think intelligence is a problem with Desir. I think the biggest knock on him is that he played at Lindenwood

But he was great at the east west game ... and at the senior bowl ...so he showed he can play with the higher lvl guys

Big T
05-10-2014, 01:12 PM
But he was great at the east west game ... and at the senior bowl ...so he showed he can play with the higher lvl guys

I know. I don't get it.

Stone
05-10-2014, 01:19 PM
He's not bad ... he's a great kid , maybe just stupid ..he's a great character and his story is crazy

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2048118-for-nfl-prospect-pierre-desir-its-always-been-fatherhood-then-football
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1937585-lindenwood-cb-pierre-desir-is-motivated-by-his-family

That quote "bad and dumb is a lousy combination" came from a golf tournament when I played competitively and I mis-read AND mis-hit a critical putt. The mis-hit counteracted the mis-read and it went in. When I admitted later that I had it breaking left and pulled it and it broke right, my playing partner said "bad and dumb is usually a lousy combination"

ChucktownSteeler
05-10-2014, 01:20 PM
Now with Bryant on board this draft is shaping up quite nicely.

No to Desir, no smurf CBs please.

cbrunn
05-10-2014, 01:25 PM
Now with Bryant on board this draft is shaping up quite nicely.

No to Desir, no smurf CBs please.

Desir is 1 of the bigger CBs in the draft?? he's over 6 foot almost 6'2 I believe

My bad, I must be thinking of someone else. I had him at 5' 8".

Big T
05-10-2014, 01:26 PM
Now with Bryant on board this draft is shaping up quite nicely.

No to Desir, no smurf CBs please.

Desir is 6'1 lol

He'd be an absolute Steel in the 5th

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 01:31 PM
Boom! Bryant! Anyone upset about spending a 4th on Archer? Lol

Agreed. That definitely covers the Archer pick. I thought of him in 5, but I would have been OK with 4 if we took Bryant 3rd. It is moot now, so I am thrilled .

KevinE
05-10-2014, 01:32 PM
Desir is 6'1 lol

He'd be an absolute Steel in the 5th

Pull this off and we could stop drafting!! lol


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cbrunn
05-10-2014, 01:35 PM
And of course now the Browns get him

Haden, Gilbert, Desir ... and still have Buster Skrine :banging:

Big T
05-10-2014, 01:35 PM
Pull this off and we could stop drafting!! lol


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Cleveland just took him lol. Oh well. Good pick Brownies.

KevinE
05-10-2014, 01:38 PM
Cleveland his took him lol. Oh well. Good pick Brownies.

Cleveland putting together an impassable secondary!


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TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 01:45 PM
Ok, Gator fan, Roberson?

Stone
05-10-2014, 01:49 PM
Cleveland putting together an impassable secondary!


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Maybe, but they will fix that! They will allow two special team TD's per game and a 12 YPC rushing defense.:lol:

KevinE
05-10-2014, 01:52 PM
Maybe, but they will fix that! They will allow two special team TD's per game and a 12 YPC rushing defense.:lol:

Johnny football will make sure they lose more then they win.. LOL


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Big T
05-10-2014, 01:58 PM
Ok, Gator fan, Roberson?

In the 5th, I'd take him. We haven't taken a corner yet and he's a big body. Another guy who started out the process as a late 1, early 2. His slow 40 didn't help. I think both Roberson and Purifoy would be good value picks in the 5th on...

SuperSteelers
05-10-2014, 02:08 PM
All the CBs left are not really worth drafting. Oh well, maybe next year.

Big T
05-10-2014, 02:10 PM
Really no CBs left are worth drafting. Oh well, maybe next year.

Roberson and Purifoy are certainly worth drafting. They were criminally overrated to start the process, with people putting them in the 1-2 range, but they're certainly not undraftable.

Antone Exum is still available, as is EJ Gaines...

It's the 5th round. Saying there are no more draftable players (at any position) is ignorant.

coldrolled
05-10-2014, 02:30 PM
Roberson and Purifoy are certainly worth drafting. They were criminally overrated to start the process, with people putting them in the 1-2 range, but they're certainly not undraftable.

Antone Exum is still available, as is EJ Gaines...

It's the 5th round. Saying there are no more draftable players (at any position) is ignorant.

Dontae Johnson ? Did he get drafted already... runs 4.4 6'2

Big T
05-10-2014, 02:40 PM
Dontae Johnson ? Did he get drafted already... runs 4.4 6'2

He's a 49er.

coldrolled
05-10-2014, 02:51 PM
He's a 49er.

Richardson 4.4 is a steeler

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 02:53 PM
6 feet, 4.4 is about all I know about this kid.

JensK
05-10-2014, 02:54 PM
We're not slow anymore at least

Big T
05-10-2014, 02:56 PM
6 feet, 4.4 is about all I know about this kid.

Zone corner, good ball skills, decent tackler. Plays off coverage a little too off. Needs some technique work. Pretty good pick though. We needed a CB and we got one with measurable

Stone
05-10-2014, 02:57 PM
Richardson 4.4 is a steeler

Not fond of this pick. Character issues, concentration issues, motor issues.

JensK
05-10-2014, 02:59 PM
Not fond of this pick

Its one of those picks, where it fills a need but you dont really expect much of him. If he pans out, great! If not, its a fifth round pick.

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:04 PM
@EdBouchette: Steelers DB coach Carnell Lake had recruited CB Richardson at UCLA. Lake then left UCLA and Richardson transferred to Arizona. Together now

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:05 PM
Damn... Good pick by Philly. I was hoping Ed Reynolds would be there with our 5th comp.

LastRide
05-10-2014, 03:08 PM
Arizona Wildcats cornerback Shaquille Richardson has been earning positive reviews during this week’s practice for the East-West Shrine Game.

Bucky Brooks at NFL.com provided this assessment after Wednesday’s practice:

Arizona CB Shaquille Richardson has been one of the most impressive corners on the field this week. He has consistently made plays on the ball in 1-on-1 drills, displaying outstanding quickness, footwork and movement skills.

Additionally, Richardson has impressed evaluators with his size/speed combination (6-foot-1, 188 pounds) and his competitiveness in coverage. He has challenged receivers at every turn, earning positive reviews from coaches and scouts in attendance.

And that’s not all. Here’s a supporting second opinion from Eric Galko of OptimumScouting.com on Wednesday:

The best defensive back of the day hasn’t changed from Tuesday, as Arizona’s Shaquille Richardson impressed once again. He recovered well vertically, staying tight to his receiver and keeping his balance throughout the receiver. His subtle yet not exaggerated hand use at the top of the receiver’s route has done wonders for him this week, particularly against primarily slot receivers in one-on-one situations.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatrepo...t-shrine-game/

JackLambert
05-10-2014, 03:09 PM
That improved front 7 better generate a ton of pressure.

igor0190
05-10-2014, 03:09 PM
Its one of those picks, where it fills a need but you dont really expect much of him. If he pans out, great! If not, its a fifth round pick.

Yup, it's all potential at this point. Gotta draft guys with the tools and see if they can be taught the skills and techniques to become good players.

Rhys Lightning 63
05-10-2014, 03:16 PM
QUARTERBACK CONTROVERSY IN CINCINNATI!!!

A.J McCarron v Andy Dalton

JensK
05-10-2014, 03:16 PM
Make it happen

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 03:22 PM
Ok, now Deandre Coleman.

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:25 PM
I like that Saints pick (Gator bias) in Ronald Powell. In no way a complete player, extremely raw, but can rush the passer.

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:27 PM
Ok, now Deandre Coleman.

That would be fine. There are still a lot of CBs on the board. Wouldnt surprise me at all to see us pick another one before it's all said and done. Roberson, Purifoy, Ej Gaines, Antone Exum, Victor Hampton...

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 03:30 PM
For some reason, I thought Roberson was gone. Yeah, I would be OK with that.

JensK
05-10-2014, 03:38 PM
Solid pick! :) he can play both tackle and guard, and we could use a bit of depth!

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:38 PM
From what I've seen Wesley Johnson is a perfect Tomlin late round lineman. Nothing special about him physically, but he can play every position on the line. He's a high floor, low ceiling type guy. He didn't have a single holding call against him in his career until midway through his senior season and he gave up a total of two sacks over his last two years.

SuperSteelers
05-10-2014, 03:40 PM
OT Wesley Johnson


Overview

Nashville native who won a state championship and competed in track and field (throws) as a prep. Redshirted in 2009. Started all 12 games at left tackle in '10. Started all 13 games in '11 -- seven at center, four at LT, two at left guard. Started all 26 games at LT 2012-13, allowing just two sacks. Two-year captain.

Analysis

Strengths: Quick out of his stance. Natural bender with athletic, coordinated movement. Light on his feet and can work his hips. Keeps his hands inside and can pop and recoil. Shuffles, slides and mirrors. Gets to the second level with ease and can wheel around the edge as a puller. Durable, versatile 51-game starter -- has experience playing all across the line. Highly respected, passionate, no-nonsense vocal leader.

Weaknesses: Average length. Is not built for power. Needs to bulk up and get functionally stronger. Light anchor -- stressed by power rushers. Does not jolt defenders with his hands. Average explosion/pop on contact. Inconsistent connecting with moving targets and fitting on linebackers. Has had difficulty filling out his frame and maintaining weight.

Draft Projection: Rounds 4-5

Bottom Line

Experienced, intelligent, competitive, athletic, strength-deficient zone blocker. Has everything you want intangibly and has developmental value, but has to make significant strength gains and perfect his technique to survive against longer, more powerful NFL defensive ends. Has worked out as a center in the spring and might be most natural inside.


Reference:
NFL.com. (n.d.). Draft 2014. Retrieved May 10, 2014, from http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/wesley-johnson?id=2543763

Stone
05-10-2014, 03:42 PM
Good value pick that matches a need!

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 03:43 PM
I assume Munchak had input, so there must be something to work with.

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:44 PM
I know a lot of people might hate me for saying this, but if he's around with our 6th round comp or 7th round pick, I wouldn't be against Michael Sam. He can't drop into coverage, but he can be a successful situational pass rusher.

JensK
05-10-2014, 03:44 PM
He is a great fit, if we actually start using the zone blocking system. He is very small!

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 03:51 PM
Not a huge need (although we do need another RB), what about Seastrunk as a value pick? RBs go down a lot.

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:52 PM
Is it solely a coincidence that both of Pittsburgh's previous OCs took Big, Tall, strong armed QBs, one of which has "berger" in his name...?

Lol

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:53 PM
Not a huge need (although we do need another RB), what about Seastrunk as a value pick? RBs go down a lot.

Seeing as how we only have 3 RBs that are locks to make the roster right now (that's if you count Archer as a RB), I wouldn't be against it. I'm surprised he's still around honestly.

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 03:54 PM
I know a lot of people might hate me for saying this, but if he's around with our 6th round comp or 7th round pick, I wouldn't be against Michael Sam. He can't drop into coverage, but he can be a successful situational pass rusher.

We do need help on the line but Deandre Coleman could play anywhere on the DL.

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:57 PM
We do need help on the line but Deandre Coleman could play anywhere on the DL.

Sam would technically be an OLB here, though his athleticism is lacking. He's relentless though, hard working, good character guy. If you put him on the field in certain situations and just let him hunt the QB, he can have success.

But I agree, I like Coleman as well.

Big T
05-10-2014, 03:58 PM
I like Zach Kerr at NT too.

ChucktownSteeler
05-10-2014, 04:00 PM
Are there any punters worthy a 6th or 7th round pick? I would like to see the revolving door at this position close.

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 04:01 PM
Sam would technically be an OLB here, though his athleticism is lacking. He's relentless though, hard working, good character guy. If you put him on the field in certain situations and just let him hunt the QB, he can have success.

But I agree, I like Coleman as well.

Except Sams is even slower than Jarvis Jones. The Steelers would be a perfect fit as far as team culture though. The "controversy" would not be one at all in the locker room.

ChucktownSteeler
05-10-2014, 04:03 PM
I am not sold on Sams.

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 04:04 PM
Are there any punters worthy a 6th or 7th round pick? I would like to see the revolving door at this position close.

Perhaps Van der Camp or Hornsey

I am not a big draft a punter guy though.

ChucktownSteeler
05-10-2014, 04:05 PM
Perhaps Van der Camp or Hornsey

Take a flyer on one. Why not?

Big T
05-10-2014, 04:05 PM
Are there any punters worthy a 6th or 7th round pick? I would like to see the revolving door at this position close.

Kirby Van Der Kamp.

But I think Brad Wing wins the job in camp.

ChucktownSteeler
05-10-2014, 04:06 PM
Kirby Van Der Kamp.

But I think Brad Wing wins the job in camp.

I'd like to see the Wing experiment pan out, but I am not confident.

Big T
05-10-2014, 04:08 PM
I am not sold on Sams.

What 6th round pick are you "sold" on? He's a weird fit schematically and not very athletic, but he can rush the passer. The last SEC defensive player of the year that didn't go in the 1st was DeMeco Ryans and he ended up going in the 2nd and being defensive player of the year. He deserves to be drafted, based on play.

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 04:08 PM
Take a flyer on one. Why not?

Maybe the 7, but there are still "players" that could help us like Purifoy, Seastrunk, Coleman. If anyone like that is there, no punter.

Big T
05-10-2014, 04:11 PM
Maybe the 7, but there are still "players" that could help us like Purifoy, Seastrunk, Coleman. If anyone like that is there, no punter.

Can't forget Roberson and Kerr

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 04:12 PM
Lol I keep thinking Roberson is gone.

Big T
05-10-2014, 04:12 PM
There goes EJ Gaines

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 04:12 PM
Seastrunk gone.

Big T
05-10-2014, 04:12 PM
Lol I keep thinking Roberson is gone.

I figured lol

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 04:16 PM
Can Antonio Richardson zone block? He is available too. I would have thought 3-4 round.

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 04:17 PM
I know he is athletic for a big tackle.

igor0190
05-10-2014, 04:20 PM
I am not sold on Sams.

Me either... He's a pass rush specialist at best. How do you ever dress a one dimensional player on game day. Poor combine, poor tape.
The Sam interviews annoyed me because all he ever said was how he's a great pass rusher with nothing about being a good all around player being able to defend the run.

Stone
05-10-2014, 04:23 PM
I was hoping for Coleman but this guy Zumwalt has an upside

JensK
05-10-2014, 04:26 PM
We're stacked at ILB now at least...

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 04:26 PM
Zumwalt is a hitter. I bet he excels in ST.

Big T
05-10-2014, 04:26 PM
I don't know Zumwalt lol

JensK
05-10-2014, 04:27 PM
Walterfootball rates him as a forth rotunder ILB, so value is there

Big T
05-10-2014, 04:38 PM
Me either... He's a pass rush specialist at best. How do you ever dress a one dimensional player on game day. Poor combine, poor tape.
The Sam interviews annoyed me because all he ever said was how he's a great pass rusher with nothing about being a good all around player being able to defend the run.

He doesnt have poor tape. He's a crap athlete but he has some good tape. He's just short for a 4-3 end and doesn't have the athleticism to stand up in a 3-4. He's draftable.

Big T
05-10-2014, 04:44 PM
Sam probably ends up on a team like Seattle, SF or NE with a strong lockerroom and picks to spare.

TarlsQtr
05-10-2014, 05:29 PM
Got our big load for the middle.

Big T
05-10-2014, 05:31 PM
Got our big load for the middle.

I saw a lot of mocks with him to us in the 3-4 range and I hated it. I'll take it with a glorified 7th though. Mountain of a man in the middle. 6'7, 350+

JensK
05-10-2014, 05:31 PM
Got our big load for the middle.

A talented one too! Really dont understand why he fell this far. Dont mind if I do though!

JensK
05-10-2014, 05:32 PM
I saw a lot of mocks with him to us in the 3-4 range and I hated it. I'll take it with a glorified 7th though. Mountain of a man in the middle. 6'7, 350+

Really? I always found him to be a pretty good DT as a 2 down player

Rollers
05-10-2014, 05:44 PM
He was rated as round 2 - 3. Doesn't mean squat but there has to be something there to get those kinds of reviews? Might make a really nice nose tackle?

Big T
05-10-2014, 05:44 PM
Really? I always found him to be a pretty good DT as a 2 down player

He's insanely tall for a nose. But a 6th rd comp pick/7th round is exactly when you take chances on guys like this.

Big T
05-10-2014, 05:45 PM
@rayfitt1: Daniel McCullers said he weighed 420 pounds as a senior in high school. Has "slimmed down" to 352.