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chisteeler
02-19-2014, 05:37 PM
Just curious for your opinions. After having read about the situation in Miami with Incognito and the rest of the OL in the Martin "Bully" investigation, do you believe that Mike Pouncey would have displayed the same type of behavior had he been able to play along side his brother in Pittsburgh? I obviously know that we had no chance to draft him, so do not be quick to say it doesn't matter.
I am only looking to get your feedback/opinions on an interesting situation of possibly poor management, divided locker rooms or just immature men.
Could it be that Mike Pouncey is a jerk or just easily influenced to follow the crowd?

Thoughts?

Real Deal Steel
02-19-2014, 07:12 PM
Martin was a wus and Pouncey, Incognito and the rest were trying to toughen his soft butt up. If you think that Miami is a isolated case then you need to wake up.

And the lockerroom isn't divided at all. Everyone is on Incognito and Pouncey's side. The culture and how things are done in the NFL is totally different then the real world. People are too busy trying to grade the situation with "real world" eyes and that's not the way it works. The pussification of the NFL is well underway.

Mike Tomlin
02-19-2014, 07:22 PM
I don't know but I think it was fortunate for us because that might keep him here. I think he would've jumped ship for good weather and to be with his brother. I'm sure he saw the opening with the Incogito Scandal. When Miami played in Pittsburgh he treated Miami's o-line to dinner which could mean nothing but it was terrible timing lol. With the report putting his brother on blast I don't think they want another Pouncey in their locker room. Between the injury and his brothers troubles down in Miami a fair deal from the Steelers should keep him here. I think the chance to play with his brother in Florida again is the only thing he would choose over money and winning. At this point though I don't think it would be good for them to be in the same locker room either, let them become their own men.

chisteeler
02-19-2014, 08:47 PM
Martin was a wus and Pouncey, Incognito and the rest were trying to toughen his soft butt up. If you think that Miami is a isolated case then you need to wake up.

And the lockerroom isn't divided at all. Everyone is on Incognito and Pouncey's side. The culture and how things are done in the NFL is totally different then the real world. People are too busy trying to grade the situation with "real world" eyes and that's not the way it works. The pussification of the NFL is well underway.

I never mentioned that I thought that Miami was an isolated case, but rather, I inquired, if Mike Pouncey were on the Steelers team could his behavior have been different by simply playing with his brother in an organization that has a history of doing things the right way? (which is implied by simply being a Steelers fan).

Real Deal Steel
02-20-2014, 12:25 AM
I wish they would want to move Pouncey and attempt to clean house. We could use him. And I don't think there'd be any problems if he came here.

chisteeler
02-20-2014, 08:48 AM
^ Would be an interesting move.

JensK
02-20-2014, 09:07 AM
I wish they would want to move Pouncey and attempt to clean house. We could use him. And I don't think there'd be any problems if he came here.

Being one of the absolute best at his position, he would likely demand more per year than what we pay the entire line right now.

steelchamp204
02-20-2014, 12:08 PM
Martin was a wus and Pouncey, Incognito and the rest were trying to toughen his soft butt up. If you think that Miami is a isolated case then you need to wake up.

And the lockerroom isn't divided at all. Everyone is on Incognito and Pouncey's side. The culture and how things are done in the NFL is totally different then the real world. People are too busy trying to grade the situation with "real world" eyes and that's not the way it works. The pussification of the NFL is well underway.

Have you ever worked in a factory who has employed over 110 people?? You can compare a factory environment to and NFL lockeroom.

1. Different cultures
2. Different views
3. Races

Harassment goes on all the time where I work, but there is a line that is drawn between all of us, even the ones who hate each other. Sometimes you go a little to far, but once you realize you did, you back off that person a little bit. Incognito went way overboard with Martin, there is no denying that. If anyone went that far at any work environment, they would be out of a job. Book it.

Real Deal Steel
02-20-2014, 01:34 PM
Have you ever worked in a factory who has employed over 110 people?? You can compare a factory environment to and NFL lockeroom.

1. Different cultures
2. Different views
3. Races

Harassment goes on all the time where I work, but there is a line that is drawn between all of us, even the ones who hate each other. Sometimes you go a little to far, but once you realize you did, you back off that person a little bit. Incognito went way overboard with Martin, there is no denying that. If anyone went that far at any work environment, they would be out of a job. Book it.

I understand what your saying but I disagree with you. The NFL isn't a factory environment. Don't agree with that. It's a Neanderthal environment of Mano vs. Mano. In reality, if you were really in an NFL lockerroom, there are a number of things that would be consider in everyday life OVER THE LINE! And it's been accepted to be like this for over 70 years now.

Just because some silver spooned guy can't handle doesn't mean we change the culture and environment because of it. Sometimes, (and I do mean sometimes) you don't have to fix, tweek or change something. The NFL is one such "something" The NFL is an isolated bubble of a culture. So much so, that is why it is a legal Monopoly in this country when monopolies are suppose to be illegal. That's why it has the exemptions that it has.

I don't compare any other environment to the NFL's because there is none that stack up. It's barbaric in a lot of ways and you can't legislate violence out of a violent game. Or we won't be watching.

NeilPatrickBanana
02-20-2014, 01:42 PM
It's a Neanderthal environment of Mano vs. Mano. In reality, if you were really in an NFL lockerroom, there are a number of things that would be consider in everyday life OVER THE LINE! And it's been accepted to be like this for over 70 years now.


:lol:

steelchamp204
02-20-2014, 02:01 PM
I understand what your saying but I disagree with you. The NFL isn't a factory environment. Don't agree with that. It's a Neanderthal environment of Mano vs. Mano. In reality, if you were really in an NFL lockerroom, there are a number of things that would be consider in everyday life OVER THE LINE! And it's been accepted to be like this for over 70 years now.

Just because some silver spooned guy can't handle doesn't mean we change the culture and environment because of it. Sometimes, (and I do mean sometimes) you don't have to fix, tweek or change something. The NFL is one such "something" The NFL is an isolated bubble of a culture. So much so, that is why it is a legal Monopoly in this country when monopolies are suppose to be illegal. That's why it has the exemptions that it has.

I don't compare any other environment to the NFL's because there is none that stack up. It's barbaric in a lot of ways and you can't legislate violence out of a violent game. Or we won't be watching.

I belong to a union at my work place and it takes harassment of any kind to an extreme, since the NFL has a player union, I believe it is just the same as ours.

If you don't think a factory environment can't stack up to a bunch of overpaid testosterone driven jocks, then you must not have worked in a factory environment before. It's just not in factories, it's in every workplace who has a lot of people working in it with different mindsets.

Just because we aren't all 6'5 and build like Arnold, doesn't mean that we cant harass someone just as hard as they do in a "lockeroom".

The lockeroom failed to see what was going on and stick up for there teammate. Sometimes it's to much and someone needs to step in and tell the other ******* to knock it the **** off, which the dolphins failed to do.

Real Deal Steel
02-20-2014, 02:46 PM
The locker room is on Incognito's and Pouncey's side. That tells you exactly what they think of the situation since they were a witness to most of it.
And all the people who play in the NFL (for the most part) are keeping mum which tells you that what went on isn't uncommon.

I don't believer there was any real harassment. They were trying to toughen the soft @ss guy up.

Again, notice the league of players is quiet about this. This is common.