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iowachief
12-29-2013, 07:48 PM
1. On the missed FG the Chargers has 7 on the line of scrimmage on the right side of the center... This is not allowed with the rule change for 2013. You can only have 6... Blatent disregard for the rule.

2. The whistle did not blow on the fake punt, not even close.... ridiculous. They could not review because of forward progress ghost whiste.

I hate the bolts. They will get killed by the Bengals and the Steelers could have made a run... crappy officiating all year.

JensK
12-29-2013, 07:50 PM
Number 2 is legit. It was ****ing horrible on every single account. Dunno about the first. Did not notice, but it did not cause him to miss is, so whatever.

Real Deal Steel
12-29-2013, 07:52 PM
I will say that if we did make the playoffs, we would have beaten the Bengals. Don't know about anyone else in the playoffs, but we would have beaten those orange cats.

iowachief
12-29-2013, 07:52 PM
Number 2 is legit. It was ****ing horrible on every single account. Dunno about the first. Did not notice, but it did not cause him to miss is, so whatever.

It matters because it is poor coaching and they should be penalized for not knowing the rule or improper alignment...

ChucktownSteeler
12-29-2013, 07:52 PM
Heck, the NFL will probably give them a bonus.

Real Deal Steel
12-29-2013, 08:00 PM
Anything that keeps the Steelers out the playoffs, Goodall highly approves of.

steelersbabex25
12-29-2013, 08:15 PM
Yeah that fake punt made no sense. I was confused as to why it wasn't made a bigger deal. Didn't even look at it.

Ward186
12-29-2013, 08:24 PM
Probably give the refs a job in the Obama Cabinet.

Big T
12-29-2013, 09:07 PM
One of the craziest Sunday’s in NFL regular-season history included a controversial call that will be debated for decades to come in Pittsburgh.

In overtime of the Chiefs-Chargers game, the home team called a fake punt. The snap came to Eric Weddle, who ran up the middle for a first down.

But Weddle’s helmet came off and the ball came out and the Chiefs recovered it and returned it for an apparent touchdown.

The touchdown didn’t count. Referee Bill Leavy announced to the crowd that the yardage for a first down had been gained, with no explanation or elaboration as to the reason for the decision to wipe out the fumble and the return.

It wasn’t clear whether Leavy had determined that Weddle’s forward progress had been stopped, or that Weddle’s helmet came off before he fumbled, which would have killed the play. Forward progress isn’t reviewable; a helmet coming off is.

Per a league source, Leavy determined that Weddle’s forward progress had been stopped before the fumble. Right or wrong, the decision could not be reviewed.

Still, the question of whether Weddle had indeed reached the line to gain could have been reviewed, but for whatever reason it wasn’t. That’s the kind of glitch that will be avoided if/when (when) the replay function is moved to the league office.

And regardless of the nuts and bolts, Leavy should have explained the situation better. The decision removed a win from the Chiefs, and it removed the Steelers from the playoffs. Like Clete Blakeman’s perfunctory “game is over” message at the end of the Monday night game between the Patriots and Panthers, Leavy’s limited verbiage will do little to make Chiefs (and Steelers) fans believe they didn’t get screwed.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/29/leavy-decided-forward-progress-was-stopped-in-san-diego/

North Steel
12-29-2013, 09:07 PM
FIXED:moon:

Troyisabeast_43
12-29-2013, 09:27 PM
Should have at least been reviewed by the officiating to not only see if the ball was out before forward progress was stopped but to also see if Weddle was able to get the 1st down or not. If you watch the play again he is clearly still driving for the 1st down when the ball was stripped out. It should have been ruled a strip fumble and a TD for KC. For the refs to not even consider looking at it once again with that much riding on this game for both the Chargers and the Steelers is flat out inexcusable. That play has got to be reviewed and if was reviewed they would have clearly seen that Weddle was stripped of the ball as he was still driving for the first down and before his forward progress was stopped. It was a terrible terrible call to not make in that situation you simply cant miss stuff like that if you are a ref in the NFL with that much on the line in that game for both the Chargers and the Steelers...

Big T
12-29-2013, 09:32 PM
One of the craziest Sunday’s in NFL regular-season history included a controversial call that will be debated for decades to come in Pittsburgh.

In overtime of the Chiefs-Chargers game, the home team called a fake punt. The snap came to Eric Weddle, who ran up the middle for a first down.

But Weddle’s helmet came off and the ball came out and the Chiefs recovered it and returned it for an apparent touchdown.

The touchdown didn’t count. Referee Bill Leavy announced to the crowd that the yardage for a first down had been gained, with no explanation or elaboration as to the reason for the decision to wipe out the fumble and the return.

It wasn’t clear whether Leavy had determined that Weddle’s forward progress had been stopped, or that Weddle’s helmet came off before he fumbled, which would have killed the play. Forward progress isn’t reviewable; a helmet coming off is.

Per a league source, Leavy determined that Weddle’s forward progress had been stopped before the fumble. Right or wrong, the decision could not be reviewed.

Still, the question of whether Weddle had indeed reached the line to gain could have been reviewed, but for whatever reason it wasn’t. That’s the kind of glitch that will be avoided if/when (when) the replay function is moved to the league office.

And regardless of the nuts and bolts, Leavy should have explained the situation better. The decision removed a win from the Chiefs, and it removed the Steelers from the playoffs. Like Clete Blakeman’s perfunctory “game is over” message at the end of the Monday night game between the Patriots and Panthers, Leavy’s limited verbiage will do little to make Chiefs (and Steelers) fans believe they didn’t get screwed.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/29/leavy-decided-forward-progress-was-stopped-in-san-diego/

HUNT4SEVEN
12-29-2013, 09:40 PM
He didn't make the first down anyways, no review means they did not want us in the playoffs, it's ok though, because we should have handle our business, i hate getting help from other teams, we got a lot of decision to make this off season...

SnakeEyes43
12-29-2013, 09:43 PM
Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Their season is over. The Steelers put themselves in the position to depend on others teams to win.

HUNT4SEVEN
12-29-2013, 09:44 PM
Anything to keep us out, Next year they won't be able to keep us out

Dallas Burgher
12-29-2013, 09:55 PM
The Steelers have no one to blame except themselves. Dozens of plays this year could have put them in the playoffs and they didn't make any of them.

Dean Denton
12-29-2013, 10:45 PM
The Steelers have no one to blame except themselves. Dozens of plays this year could have put them in the playoffs and they didn't make any of them.

Yep...a season of missed plays

Troyisabeast_43
12-29-2013, 11:27 PM
Mike Perrera the head of NFL officiating just came out and made a statement that the officials got the play in OT wrong and that is should have been reviewed and ruled a fumble. Unbelievable that this **** happens time and time again. I agree that had the Steelers handled their own business it wouldnt have come down to that but still the bottom line is way way too many mistakes are being made by these officials in games that matter the most and it's a flat out joke and completely and totally inexcusable how it keeps happening like it did here in this instance

SuperSteelers
12-29-2013, 11:40 PM
Its bad enough the Steelers didn't make the playoffs but now we have listen to all the talking heads rub it in our faces about that FG attempt and non-call. Steelers fans just can't get a break from this season. I just want it to all go away quietly so we can focus on the draft.

Dean Denton
12-29-2013, 11:43 PM
[QUOTE=Troyisabeast_43;571103]Mike Perrera the head of NFL officiating just came out and made a statement that the officials got the play in OT wrong and that is should have been reviewed and ruled a fumble. Unbelievable that this **** happens time and time again. I agree that had the Steelers handled their own business it wouldnt have come down to that but still the bottom line is way way too many mistakes are being made by these officials in games that matter the most and it's a flat out

joke and completely and totally inexcusable how it keeps happening like it did here in this instance[/
QUOTE]
They also said there should have been a flag and KC should have gotten another kick from 36 at the end of regulation.

TarlsQtr
12-29-2013, 11:50 PM
[QUOTE=Troyisabeast_43;571103]Mike Perrera the head of NFL officiating just came out and made a statement that the officials got the play in OT wrong and that is should have been reviewed and ruled a fumble. Unbelievable that this **** happens time and time again. I agree that had the Steelers handled their own business it wouldnt have come down to that but still the bottom line is way way too many mistakes are being made by these officials in games that matter the most and it's a flat out

joke and completely and totally inexcusable how it keeps happening like it did here in this instance[/
QUOTE]
They also said there should have been a flag and KC should have gotten another kick from 36 at the end of regulation.

I wonder if Goodell will still have the balls to take a draft pick after the refs effed it up that badly.

KALguy
12-30-2013, 12:35 AM
1. On the missed FG the Chargers has 7 on the line of scrimmage on the right side of the center... This is not allowed with the rule change for 2013. You can only have 6... Blatent disregard for the rule.

2. The whistle did not blow on the fake punt, not even close.... ridiculous. They could not review because of forward progress ghost whiste.

I hate the bolts. They will get killed by the Bengals and the Steelers could have made a run... crappy officiating all year.

R U serious???
I guess those terrible towels is for crybabies.

Big T
12-30-2013, 12:50 AM
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/chiefs.jpg?w=250

At a time when plenty of Steelers fans are griping about the decision to wipe what would have been a game-clinching fumble return off the scoreboard in overtime of the contest between the Chiefs-Chargers, all Steelers fans should be complaining about the failure of the officials to miss a blatant foul as the Chiefs tried to win in regulation.

As kicker Ryan Succop lined up on the right hash mark to try a 41-yard field goal with eight seconds remaining in the fourth quarter, seven Chargers positioned themselves on the line of scrimmage to the left of the long snapper. But a new provision added this year by the NFL to Rule 9, Section 1, Article 3 states that “[n]o more than six Team B players may be on the line of scrimmage on either side of the snapper at the snap” when Team A lines up in a conventional field goal formation.

Per a league source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL believes a flag should have been thrown. The league office could acknowledge the error publicly as soon as Monday.

The seven Chargers lined up to the left of the Chiefs snapper in plain view of at least two members of referee Bill Leavy’s crew. If the officials had called a penalty for illegal formation, the Chiefs would have had another chance to make what would have been the game-winning kick.

Succop’s shot at immediate redemption would have come from 36 yards out, with four seconds on the clock. If good, the Chargers most likely would have had no time left for a Stanford-band attempt to win the game.

While it’s impossible to know whether Succop would have made his Mulligan, the point is that he should have had a second chance, due to the San Diego penalty that somehow wasn’t called. If Succop had converted, the Steelers would be celebrating one of the most unlikely playoff berths in franchise history, courtesy of Week 17 losses by the Ravens, Dolphins, and Chargers.

Instead, Steelers fans will spend the offseason wondering whether their team could have replicated what the Steelers accomplished in 2005, when Pittsburgh parlayed the No. 6 seed into the long-coveted One for the Thumb.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/30/chiefs-should-have-gotten-another-chance-to-boot-steelers-into-playoffs/

North Steel
12-30-2013, 12:52 AM
[QUOTE=Dean Denton;571105]

I wonder if Goodell will still have the balls to take a draft pick after the refs effed it up that badly.

Goodell will take that draft pick with ease. And I said it before the more rules you put in place or make up the more control you give the refs and when they screw up oh well.

TarlsQtr
12-30-2013, 01:23 AM
[QUOTE=TarlsQtr;571106]

Goodell will take that draft pick with ease. And I said it before the more rules you put in place or make up the more control you give the refs and when they screw up oh well.

The problem is that the rules are so ridiculously complex. Back 15 years ago, a "catch" was usually obvious. Now, you have to make a "football move" or "continue through contact with the ground." It is impossible for the refs to keep all this crap straight.

steelchamp204
12-30-2013, 08:57 AM
[QUOTE=North Steel;571115]

The problem is that the rules are so ridiculously complex. Back 15 years ago, a "catch" was usually obvious. Now, you have to make a "football move" or "continue through contact with the ground." It is impossible for the refs to keep all this crap straight.

I've said a month ago or so. The rules and the depth of which they are nowadays are putting more pressure on the refs. Obviously, being human and on such a high stage, they can't handle it.

They need to rework the PI call. Christ, there are some PI calls that give a team 40 yards if a mistake is made. Let it at 10-15 yards.

Real Deal Steel
12-30-2013, 09:03 AM
Your right. But this is what happens when the owners (through Goodall) keep tinkering with something that didn't need to be tinkered with. We are witnessing the slow erosion of the game of profootball. Because of the owners greed for money , and ex-bum players greed for money, the game will be unwatchable in 6 - 7 years.

ChucktownSteeler
12-30-2013, 09:59 AM
[QUOTE=North Steel;571115]

The problem is that the rules are so ridiculously complex. Back 15 years ago, a "catch" was usually obvious. Now, you have to make a "football move" or "continue through contact with the ground." It is impossible for the refs to keep all this crap straight.

It's so hard to 2 referees (shown in the photo) facing the LOS to count to 7. Yes, that's a complex rule all-right.

steelchamp204
12-30-2013, 10:24 AM
[QUOTE=TarlsQtr;571124]

It's so hard to 2 referees (shown in the photo) facing the LOS to count to 7. Yes, that's a complex rule all-right.

Let's be fair, the obvious blown call is obvious. It's the ridiculous in depth detail that other calls have been made out to be now.

Last week, why couldn't Tomlin challenge Clarks knee being down after the FG was blocked? I mean, really. lol

LASVEGASGUY
12-30-2013, 10:49 AM
If anyone should be fired it's Tomlin for not making the playoffs in a crappy AFC. That's two losing seasons in a row now for him. I know before you say it, 8-8 is a winning season. If it's a winning season than in reality it's also a losing season to.

Real Deal Steel
12-30-2013, 11:05 AM
8-8 is not a "winning" season. 8-8 is a 'treading water" season. Period.

NYCsteelersfan
12-30-2013, 11:10 AM
Roethlisberger lights up the stat board and people will say it's mostly playing from behind "garbage time stats." The team pulls out 6 wins against pathetic teams and Tomlin is a great head coach.

K Train
12-30-2013, 11:16 AM
8-8 is not a "winning" season. 8-8 is a 'treading water" season. Period.

Its not a losing season though and a losing season looked all but guaranteed in october. Things really came together, theres reason to be optimistic for next season

Rocky#20
12-30-2013, 11:25 AM
When was the last time the referees blew a call in the Steelers favor that resulted in the league having to apologize to the team we were playing? I knew the SD-Chiefs game was going to end up badly for us when I saw that the referee was Bill Leavy, the clown prince of officiating.

LatrobePA
12-30-2013, 11:26 AM
Its not a losing season though and a losing season looked all but guaranteed in october. Things really came together, theres reason to be optimistic for next season

Ben started to buy into the offense, Heath and Spaeth back was huge. Bell coming alive, the oline gelling, it was a thing of beauty!

MattatUT
12-30-2013, 11:35 AM
What you guys are missing is that it wasn't seven guys, it was EIGHT!!! FFS those refs sucked.

TarlsQtr
12-30-2013, 11:48 AM
[QUOTE=TarlsQtr;571124]

It's so hard to 2 referees (shown in the photo) facing the LOS to count to 7. Yes, that's a complex rule all-right.

You miss the point.

20 years ago, it was make sure each team had 11 on the field and then look for holding. Now, they have so freaking much to look for (eg. how many are on one side, if someone, heaven forbid, touches a long snapper, if a player climbs the back of another for a block) it is easy to miss something. They are part time employees. It is like giving your company's most critical project to the temp.

Real Deal Steel
12-30-2013, 11:56 AM
Its not a losing season though and a losing season looked all but guaranteed in october. Things really came together, theres reason to be optimistic for next season

Optimism starts with a good draft that brings a credible D-line, changes in the coaching staff at least, and some cohesion on the O-line. Then we can seriously talk about "optimism".

WindyCityShaker
12-30-2013, 12:08 PM
I think the screw up will save the "modification" of the draft pick, if not I would think there would need to be a serious inquiry made into Goodell's effectiveness and intentions of running the league. It sucks they got it wrong, but it has happened to almost every team, multiple times during a season; other teams probably missed the playoffs due to a bad call, not just us. I will say that just like coaches feel there is absolutely no reason for a pre-snap penalty, that there is no reason for a ref to miss a pre-snap violation, none.

What I would like to see the league do is to allow coaches to use their challenges however they like, whenever they like, play blown dead or not, with the exception of holding or pass interference.

There is no reason for allowing referee's on the field to review challenges/plays. When the league takes over the reviews it will be so much better, and actually save time on the reviews by not having to wait for the ref to trot over to the hood.

NeilPatrickBanana
12-30-2013, 12:10 PM
Optimism starts with winning (6-2)
holy :facepalm:

Big T
12-30-2013, 01:09 PM
The same referee whom many regard as the man who helped deliver the Super Bowl XL trophy to the Steelers via multiple bad calls for which he eventually expressed regret led the crew that cost the Steelers a chance to win Super Bowl XLVIII.

The NFL has acknowledged that the officials failed to call a foul on the Chargers during a potential game-winning field goal try by the Chiefs. If kicker Ryan Succop had made the field goal and the Chiefs had won the game, the Steelers would have qualified for the AFC playoffs.

As explained last night, a new rule for 2013 prohibits teams from putting more than six players on the line of scrimmage to either side of the snapper during a field-goal try. The Chargers clearly had seven men on the line to the left of the Chiefsí snapper.

The infraction is not currently subject to replay review, which means that the officials who were standing directly behind the defensive formation should have seen it. They didnít.

If the flag had been thrown, the Chiefs would have gotten a second chance at the missed 41-yard field goal, from five yards closer. If that kick had gone through, the Chiefs would have won, the Chargers would have lost, and the Steelers would be getting ready for a trip to Cincinnati.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/30/nfl-acknowledges-officiating-error-on-chiefs-field-goal-try/

steelchamp204
12-30-2013, 01:19 PM
And no apology for the ghost whistle that should had been a fumble recovery for TD??

teeceemadison
12-30-2013, 02:17 PM
all designed to keep just one team out, not once, but twice in the same game.

TarlsQtr
12-30-2013, 03:17 PM
all designed to keep just one team out, not once, but twice in the same game.

LOL That is ludicrous. There was no "design" at all, just poor officiating.

Troyisabeast_43
12-30-2013, 03:35 PM
Yea I agree there was no conspiracy to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs. The refs unfortunately just screwed it up and I agree that it was absolutely inexcusable for the refs to blow both of those calls on the FG and the fake punt in OT. But that's the way it went down unfortunately. At the end of the day we as Steelers fans have to live with it as frustrating as it is to do and move on and look forward to next season...

teeceemadison
12-30-2013, 04:02 PM
LOL That is ludicrous. There was no "design" at all, just poor officiating.


i realize that too dude, i was just making a point.....good grief, the refs are standing right behind the illegal formation before the kick.....and do nothing.....and the no whistle on the fumble....no review on change of possession? really?

Rocky#20
12-30-2013, 04:18 PM
Tomlin said he was in his basement watching the game with his son and he saw the illegal formation on TV before the ball was even snapped. Now if he could see this just from watching on TV, how could the entire officiating crew standing just a couple of feet away from the play miss it?

Nolrog
12-30-2013, 08:37 PM
Number 2 is legit. It was ****ing horrible on every single account. Dunno about the first. Did not notice, but it did not cause him to miss is, so whatever.

I saw a pretty definitive shot of this on another site. They clearly had 7 to the right of the center.

Nolrog
12-30-2013, 08:44 PM
That's two losing seasons in a row now for him. I know before you say it, 8-8 is a winning season. If it's a winning season than in reality it's also a losing season to me.

8-8 isn't a winning season, but it's not a losing season as well. Considering we started 0-4 and finished 8-8, he did a damn good job.

NYCsteelersfan
12-31-2013, 03:22 AM
8-8 isn't a winning season, but it's not a losing season as well. Considering we started 0-4 and finished 8-8, he did a damn good job.

Geno Smith's season stats:

16 games
55.8 completion percentage
12 TDs and 21 INTs
passer rating of 66.5

He was easily the worst starting QB in the league. Maybe someone could argue that Pryor or Eli Manning had a worse season, but that still makes Smith the 3rd worst in the league. And yet Loud Mouth Rex Ryan got the Jets to 8-8.

On the Steelers side, Roethlisberger once again easily placed himself amongst the top 10 performing QBs in the league.

I really don't understand why anyone is doing cart wheels over Tomlin getting the Steelers to 8-8 given their soft schedule. I mean I do understand (you simply have Tomlin nut-huggers on this forum), but I just don't understand how they justify the nut-hugging in their own minds.

Given the easy schedule and pathetic performance from a lot of AFC teams, this Steelers team should've strolled its way into the playoffs. Instead they're all on the golf course right now. This season was a disaster.

perryao
12-31-2013, 11:09 AM
Even if the refs review the fumble they wouldn't have overturned it. In fact, if you look at the video the ball doesn't come out until after his helmet comes off. It's really tough to see but it's there. If they had ruled fumble I doubt they overturn it either.

Still, it probably doesn't get to OT if the refs catch the illegal formation penalty.

NeilPatrickBanana
12-31-2013, 11:47 AM
Geno Smith's season stats:

16 games
55.8 completion percentage
12 TDs and 21 INTs
passer rating of 66.5

He was easily the worst starting QB in the league. Maybe someone could argue that Pryor or Eli Manning had a worse season, but that still makes Smith the 3rd worst in the league. And yet Loud Mouth Rex Ryan got the Jets to 8-8.

On the Steelers side, Roethlisberger once again easily placed himself amongst the top 10 performing QBs in the league.

I really don't understand why anyone is doing cart wheels over Tomlin getting the Steelers to 8-8 given their soft schedule. I mean I do understand (you simply have Tomlin nut-huggers on this forum), but I just don't understand how they justify the nut-hugging in their own minds.

Given the easy schedule and pathetic performance from a lot of AFC teams, this Steelers team should've strolled its way into the playoffs. Instead they're all on the golf course right now. This season was a disaster.

I know how much you love QBR.
While it has it's flaws, I've always argued it is the measure that most accurately correlates to winning

The top 14 QBR rated QBs, includes 11 of the 12 QBs that are in the playoffs
(Bolded NOT in playoffs

1. Peyton
2. Rivers
3. Brees
4. Foles
5. Rodgers
6. Kaepernick
7. Cutler (McCown)
8. Luck
9. Ryan
10. Brady
11. Romo
12. Wilson
13. Newton
14. Dalton
....
(16. Ben)
(22. Alex Smith)

NYCsteelersfan
01-01-2014, 07:15 AM
I know how much you love QBR.
While it has it's flaws, I've always argued it is the measure that most accurately correlates to winning

The top 14 QBR rated QBs, includes 11 of the 12 QBs that are in the playoffs
(Bolded NOT in playoffs

1. Peyton
2. Rivers
3. Brees
4. Foles
5. Rodgers
6. Kaepernick
7. Cutler (McCown)
8. Luck
9. Ryan
10. Brady
11. Romo
12. Wilson
13. Newton
14. Dalton
....
(16. Ben)
(22. Alex Smith)

Geno Smith was the worst QB in the league and his head coach coached the team to 8 wins. What's the point of all your stats?

JensK
01-01-2014, 08:00 AM
Geno Smith was the worst QB in the league and his head coach coached the team to 8 wins. What's the point of all your stats?

According to some on this forum, 8-8 is horrible anyway.

NYCsteelersfan
01-01-2014, 08:04 AM
According to some on this forum, 8-8 is horrible anyway.

It's definitely not good, but apparently it's just as easily attainable with the worst QB in the league as it is with one of the best QBs in the league, depending on who the head coach is of course.

NeilPatrickBanana
01-01-2014, 08:50 AM
Geno Smith was the worst QB in the league and his head coach coached the team to 8 wins. What's the point of all your stats?

The point of the stats was to open your eyes to the correlation between a stat and winning/playoffs... And possibly open your eyes to its value

I'lm sure you think your Geno smith comment makes some sort of point.... But it doesn't

NYCsteelersfan
01-01-2014, 09:05 AM
I'lm sure you think your Geno smith comment makes some sort of point.... But it doesn't

It only doesn't make a point to a Tomlin cheerleader who simply doesn't want to admit that Rex Ryan is a better head coach.

NeilPatrickBanana
01-01-2014, 09:24 AM
It only doesn't make a point to a Tomlin cheerleader who simply doesn't want to admit that Rex Ryan is a better head coach.

ive never said tomlin was better than ryan, or vice versa...

The Steelers got to 8-8 leaning on their QB
The Jets got to 8-8 leaning on their running game/defense

The comparison shows nothing.... other than 2 Head Coaches getting the most out of flawed teams.

LASVEGASGUY
01-01-2014, 12:42 PM
After 7 years you haven't realized this coach is nothing but hot air? He likes to think he is a great coach and is on top of his game but in reality any true Steeloer fan knows he didn't see squat. This is the same guy that didn't think it was a good idea to take a knee in the GB game. C'mon after 7 years he still hasn't learned to coach.

NeilPatrickBanana
01-01-2014, 01:28 PM
After 7 years you haven't realized this coach is nothing but hot air? He likes to think he is a great coach and is on top of his game but in reality any true Steeloer fan knows he didn't see squat. This is the same guy that didn't think it was a good idea to take a knee in the GB game. C'mon after 7 years he still hasn't learned to coach.

it only took 7 minutes to figure out you know diddly poo about coaching... and this was a year ago...

Bradshaw12
01-01-2014, 11:18 PM
[QUOTE=Dean Denton;571105]

I wonder if Goodell will still have the balls to take a draft pick after the refs effed it up that badly.

Goodell should not take a draft pick from Pittsburgh. Tomlin's mistake did not cost Baltimore the game. However, the official's blown call in the San Diego did cost Pittsburgh a trip to the playoffs. Even if the officials missed the call accidentally, each should be fined 100,000.00. Tomlin should be given the same consideration as the officials in that his action was unintentional. Likewise, the officials should receive the same fine as Tomlin. Otherwise, the league is exemplifying hypocrisy and tyranny.

Real Deal Steel
01-02-2014, 09:14 AM
Goodall and hypocrisy go hand in hand. In light of how we got jobbed by the refs in the chiefs game, you'd think that would square things but you can best believe that baby Hitler Goodall is still going to stick it to us by taking a draft pick.