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NeilPatrickBanana
08-07-2013, 05:59 PM
Carted off

Could be a huge blow

steelersbabex25
08-07-2013, 06:19 PM
Training camp injuries are the worst kind of injuries.

coldrolled
08-07-2013, 06:19 PM
Carted off

Could be a huge blow

not really.

LatrobePA
08-07-2013, 06:42 PM
Huge because he's a big dude?

K Train
08-07-2013, 06:53 PM
they were planning on him being a huge part of zone blocking with paulson doing the routes

LatrobePA
08-07-2013, 07:00 PM
Ok I thought he was joking. We know 89 has some major blocking skills. This could suck!

Big T
08-07-2013, 07:01 PM
not really.

You have this belief that if a TE isnt fast and isn't a great reciever that he's useless. It's an ignorant point of view if I'm being totally honest. Matt Spaeth is an ideal blocking TE in a zone blocking scheme. He arguably the best blocking TE in the NFL. It's like having an extra tackle out there in an outside ZBS.

Hopefully it isn't serious because he is/was going to be a major contributor in improving the run game.

SnakeEyes43
08-07-2013, 07:21 PM
Crap, hopefully being carted off was a precaution...

Like many have said, Spaeth was not only our #1 TE with Miller out, but he was going to play a huge role in the run game this year.

K Train
08-07-2013, 08:01 PM
i wouldnt call him the best, but hes ideal for the move with bicknell to zone. He is like 6-8 and can move really well. I do think they would limit him in the passing game because hes not very good at it and paulson looks to be their guy in that role for a while but he really is a guy that can block his *** off, which we lost when saunders got suspended

coldrolled
08-07-2013, 08:44 PM
You have this belief that if a TE isnt fast and isn't a great reciever that he's useless. It's an ignorant point of view if I'm being totally honest. Matt Spaeth is an ideal blocking TE in a zone blocking scheme. He arguably the best blocking TE in the NFL. It's like having an extra tackle out there in an outside ZBS.

Hopefully it isn't serious because he is/was going to be a major contributor in improving the run game.

not really... why did we get rid of him before??

NeilPatrickBanana
08-07-2013, 08:51 PM
he was definitely going to be a big part of the offense from a blocking perspective.... it's going to be really hard to run those stretch zone plays without a TE like Spaeth

those who get it, get it...

I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Boss was signed shortly

coldrolled
08-07-2013, 09:04 PM
he was definitely going to be a big part of the offense from a blocking perspective.... it's going to be really hard to run those stretch zone plays without a TE like Spaeth

those who get it, get it...

I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Boss was signed shortly

we basically traded pope for spaeth... Boss is out there... we missed pope by a few days I think...

coldrolled
08-07-2013, 09:07 PM
he was definitely going to be a big part of the offense from a blocking perspective.... it's going to be really hard to run those stretch zone plays without a TE like Spaeth

those who get it, get it...

I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Boss was signed shortly

we basically traded pope for spaeth... Boss is out there... we missed pope by a few days I think...

coldrolled
08-07-2013, 09:09 PM
they were planning on him being a huge part of zone blocking with paulson doing the routes

im just tired of the retreads Gay, Spaeth... etc....

LatrobePA
08-07-2013, 09:31 PM
He re-injured his knee.

LatrobePA
08-07-2013, 11:16 PM
Jones also showed good power and feet while going one-on-one against tight end Matt Spaeth in a tight ends backer drill - before Spaeth was carted off after aggravating his previous knee injury.

Dale Lolley at 6:44 PM

coldrolled
08-08-2013, 06:37 AM
With Heath Miller still on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list after undergoing ACL surgery, and Spaeth injured in practice on Wednesday, second-year tight end David Paulson is getting a lot more snaps, allowing him to continue to learn.

“More reps give you more opportunity to get better,” said Paulson. “That is giving me more chances to improve and learn. Every down I am in there is another opportunity to learn.”

Paulson said he has grown a lot since his rookie year, with being more comfortable in the offense the biggest advantage in year two.

“Being able to go out and play instead of trying to think through things on every play is big,” said Paulson. “I can go out and react and not be thinking through things so I can play full speed. Understanding the offense, the concept, and how I fit into it helps a lot.”

K Train
08-08-2013, 08:27 AM
im just tired of the retreads Gay, Spaeth... etc....

every team has those guys though

coldrolled
08-08-2013, 09:19 AM
every team has those guys though

I know. But I really like the new guys... and Paulson's quote...

More reps give you more opportunity to get better,” said Paulson.

Worilds and Heyward needed some reps earlier in their careers also. to much sideline time...

TarlsQtr
08-08-2013, 09:54 AM
I know. But I really like the new guys... and Paulson's quote...

More reps give you more opportunity to get better, said Paulson.

Worilds and Heyward needed some reps earlier in their careers also. to much sideline time...

Reps are earned, not given.

The criticism of LeBeau we hear about youth not playing is mostly misguided. Jones is going to get significant playing time. So will Shamarko. His philosophy has not changed. It is just these players showing that they are ready to be given some responsibility because of their hard work and skill. This shows up in practice.

If Worilds and Heyward had shown in practice that they were ready to get more reps earlier, they would have received them. Instead, they gave those reps to the better players at the time.

coldrolled
08-08-2013, 09:57 AM
Reps are earned, not given.

The criticism of LeBeau we hear about youth not playing is mostly misguided. Jones is going to get significant playing time. So will Shamarko. His philosophy has not changed. It is just these players showing that they are ready to be given some responsibility because of their hard work and skill. This shows up in practice.

If Worilds and Heyward had shown in practice that they were ready to get more reps earlier, they would have received them. Instead, they gave those reps to the better players at the time.

If your right, then we draft like crap...

K Train
08-08-2013, 10:29 AM
If your right, then we draft like crap...

think of all the time keisel played on ST sitting behind Kemo and reevaluate this statement

Timmons didnt start right away either becasue frankly he wasnt that good

TarlsQtr
08-08-2013, 10:29 AM
If your right, then we draft like crap...

Not really.

It takes a VERY dedicated and intelligent player to pick up our D as a rookie. Others are just behind great players. Before last season, LeBeau would have been shot by the fanbase if he had given Worilds "reps" over a healthy Harrison or Woodley. It is only in hindsight (and the departure of James) that we say, "Worilds should have been given more reps."

If you look at the recent articles about Thomas, he is succeeding more for his mental attributes than his physical (which are also phenomenal.) Troy and Clark are showering him with compliments about his work ethic, humble demeanor, and are even joking that he is a pain in the a$$ because he asks so many questions. There are a lot of very good college football players who are allowed to play on instinct or within a simpler system, who have never had to work this hard to learn a huge playbook. James (not too bright but a much closer representation of a typical young athlete than Shamarko) begged in tears to be taken off the field in a preseason game early in his career because he was totally lost and had no idea what to do.

Shamarko is one of those rare finds with the mental acuity along with physical prowess. Jones has an added advantage of being the first high round 3-4 OLB we have ever drafted (I think. If not, the first in a long time). We usually go for the smallish DE and convert them, which takes time.

I believe that LeBeau plays the best player available on a given Sunday. It is just seldom a rookie for the reasons above. As fans, we get impatient because we see each rookie as the potential next superstar. The coaches see the real deal in practice.

TarlsQtr
08-08-2013, 10:37 AM
think of all the time keisel played on ST sitting behind Kemo and reevaluate this statement

Timmons didnt start right away either becasue frankly he wasnt that good

Exactly. And imagine the howl the first time Vince Williams got run over (or missed an assignment) for a TD because we decided to "give him reps" over Timmons today.

LeBeau would be thrown into the 5th circle of hell on this message board. Each Sunday, you play your best players for the given situation.

K Train
08-08-2013, 10:39 AM
No one thought they would start pouncey as a rookie, then he earned the RG spot, then he ran away with the C spot...sometimes it just happens, but i think its a little harder on a top 5 defense than it is on a horrible bottom 5 offensive line to make a name for yourself

Troy played a little as a rookie, and he ended up being one of the all time greats at the position

coldrolled
08-08-2013, 10:43 AM
think of all the time keisel played on ST sitting behind Kemo and reevaluate this statement

Timmons didnt start right away either becasue frankly he wasnt that good

I know we draft young players because of this.. basically almost all of them are 20-21 when we draft them.... dwyer is 24 hes been here 4 years. Adrian Robinson is 23 been here 2 years, heyward is 24 been here 3 years.. Currtis brown, Paulson are younger.. I get it...

ARKIESTEEL
08-08-2013, 11:25 AM
Is David Johnson still hurt??

NeilPatrickBanana
08-08-2013, 12:06 PM
Is David Johnson still hurt??

yes.

jdehoff83
08-08-2013, 03:25 PM
Not really.

It takes a VERY dedicated and intelligent player to pick up our D as a rookie. Others are just behind great players. Before last season, LeBeau would have been shot by the fanbase if he had given Worilds "reps" over a healthy Harrison or Woodley. It is only in hindsight (and the departure of James) that we say, "Worilds should have been given more reps."

If you look at the recent articles about Thomas, he is succeeding more for his mental attributes than his physical (which are also phenomenal.) Troy and Clark are showering him with compliments about his work ethic, humble demeanor, and are even joking that he is a pain in the a$$ because he asks so many questions. There are a lot of very good college football players who are allowed to play on instinct or within a simpler system, who have never had to work this hard to learn a huge playbook. James (not too bright but a much closer representation of a typical young athlete than Shamarko) begged in tears to be taken off the field in a preseason game early in his career because he was totally lost and had no idea what to do.

Shamarko is one of those rare finds with the mental acuity along with physical prowess. Jones has an added advantage of being the first high round 3-4 OLB we have ever drafted (I think. If not, the first in a long time). We usually go for the smallish DE and convert them, which takes time.

I believe that LeBeau plays the best player available on a given Sunday. It is just seldom a rookie for the reasons above. As fans, we get impatient because we see each rookie as the potential next superstar. The coaches see the real deal in practice.

Amen

coldrolled
08-08-2013, 03:52 PM
The Steelers have signed tight end Nathan Overbay.

To make room on the roster the team released offensive tackle Mike Farrell

SuperSteelers
08-08-2013, 08:46 PM
There dropping like flies now. Plaxico carted off today as well.

Real Deal Steel
08-08-2013, 11:54 PM
Plax has a torn rotator cuff. He's done for the year.

LatrobePA
08-09-2013, 08:34 AM
Plax has a torn rotator cuff. He's done for the year.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000227700/article/plaxico-burress-tears-rotator-cuff-in-steelers-practice

coldrolled
08-09-2013, 01:51 PM
"Michael Palmer is a glue guy. He's a useful special teams player, an unassuming locker room dude and someone who can catch a little and block a little. As anything more than a backup, he's stretched. As a reserve tight end who can come on the field and do a little bit of everything, he's a mighty useful player."

Hes 25

Big T
08-09-2013, 06:17 PM
Steelers TE Matt Spaeth will be sidelined 8-10 weeks with a Lisfranc foot sprain.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=4206&line=265943&spln=1

NeilPatrickBanana
08-09-2013, 08:04 PM
I'll say it again... Huge loss

K Train
08-09-2013, 08:08 PM
I'll say it again... Huge loss

ill say he was definitely a part of what they planned to do on offense, especially running the ball....but theres about 15 players on the steelers that if any one of them went down for the year it would be a "huge loss", losing spaeth for 10 weeks is hardly that

connecticutsteel
08-09-2013, 09:07 PM
epic blow to the running game