View Full Version : How does Tagliabue not get in to HOF ?

02-04-2007, 12:38 AM

Although his legacy was strong, Tagliabue didn't get past the first round of voting by the panel of 40 media members. The former NFL chief oversaw labor peace throughout his tenure; helped enhance diversity in coaching and front-office hirings; negotiated television deals that bring in more than $25 billion; led expansion from 28 to 32 teams; established the NFL Network; and guided a rising global presence.

That link talks about the other players that got in; but how in the world does a Commissioner who followed in the footsteps of the great Pete Rozelle not get in on the first ballot in the wake of so much that's done for the league ????

02-04-2007, 12:49 AM
what makes hime special

02-04-2007, 12:54 AM
How does Ray Guy keep missing the HOF :dunno:
I think Paul will get in next year,,,,,,,, He's not been retired long enough !

02-04-2007, 03:07 AM
The hof is a crock. Media reps should not be selecting hall of fame inductees.

02-04-2007, 08:28 AM
what makes hime special

Without Paul this league wouldn't be where it is today. He took an already successful business and went farther than most people figured he could. The guy did so much for this game; that little bit of what he accomplished is only the tip of the ice berg.

02-04-2007, 09:43 AM
Well I'm sure it will be a minute before he gets in:yesnod:

02-04-2007, 11:46 AM
Without Paul this league wouldn't be where it is today. He took an already successful business and went farther than most people figured he could. The guy did so much for this game; that little bit of what he accomplished is only the tip of the ice berg.

So he didnt get in his first year he needs to wait 5 years like everyone else

02-04-2007, 12:47 PM
If that were the case then he shouldnt have been on the ballot in the first place. If he's allowed on the ballot now he should have been voted in now. Waiting 5 years just because everybody else has too, when that restriction isn't placed on him, makes no sense. If he deserves it 5 years from now then he deserves it now just the same.

02-04-2007, 01:16 PM
I thought it was wrong too... I figured he was a lock. :dunno:

02-04-2007, 01:49 PM
Contributors, such as Tagliabue, need not to be retired to be considered for Hall of Fame election. Therefore there is no specific year at which he first became "eligible" for consideration.

"From the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection process"

Some of the players (not all) that didn't get in:

Derrick Thomas:
Linebacker. . .6-3, 243. . .Alabama. . .1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs. . .11 seasons, 169 games. . .Selected in the first round (4th player overall) in 1989 NFL Draft. . .Consensus All-America. . .Amassed 10 sacks and 75 tackles to earn Defensive Rookie of the Year honors. . . In 1990 recorded league-leading and team record 20 sacks; including NFL record seven sacks in game vs. Seahawks. . .Also recorded six forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries, 63 tackles, five pass deflections, 35 quarterback pressures and was named to first of nine Pro Bowls. . .No player amassed more sacks during 1990s than 116.5 by Thomas. . .Finished career with 126.5 sacks; fourth highest total by linebacker in NFL history. . .Had 10 or more sacks in a season seven times; recorded multi-sack games 27 times. . .Forced 45 fumbles, had 19 fumble recoveries, scored four touchdowns on fumble returns and added three safeties during career. . .Lone interception came in final season. . .Member of NFL's All-Decade Team of the 1990s. . .All-NFL three times. . .Named first-team All-AFC seven times during eight-year stretch (1989-1996). . .In 11 years Thomas anchored defense, Chiefs finished first or second in AFC West ten times, made seven playoff appearances, won three division titles. . .Born January 1, 1967 in Miami, Florida. . .Died February 8, 2000

Defensive End. . .6-3, 230. . .Louisiana Tech. . .1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers. . .11 seasons, 141 games. . .Selected by San Diego in the second round (33rd player overall) in 1975 NFL Draft. . .A linebacker in college immediately moved to defensive line with the Chargers. . .Quickness, speed, strength made him a feared pass rusher. . .As a rookie, recorded seven sacks, 93 tackles (63 solo, 30 assists), four fumble recoveries. . . Career sack total near 100, but unofficial since sacks were not an official NFL statistic until 1982. . .Unofficially recorded 15.5 sacks in 1978, nine in 1979, and 10.5 in 1980 . . .Contributed 12 sacks in 11 games with the 49ers in 1981. . .Had career best 17.5 sacks in 1983, including a then-NFL record six sacks in one game, Nov. 13 vs. New Orleans Saints. . . Played on five division winners, and two Super Bowl Championship teams (Super Bowl XVI and Super Bowl XIX). . .Named All-Pro in 1980 and 1981, All-AFC in 1979 and 1980, All-NFC in 1981 and 1983. . .Selected to play in four Pro Bowls (1980, 1981, 1982, and 1984). . .Born February 24, 1952 in Arcadia, Louisiana.

Defensive End. . .6-5, 265. . .Tennessee State. . .1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles. . .15 seasons, 203 games . . .Selected by Chicago in eighth round (203rd player overall) of 1983 NFL Draft. . .Played in every game as rookie. . .Became full-time starter early in 1984, beginning a 10-year period in which he recorded 10 or more sacks in eight of 10 seasons. . .An intimidating player, could speed rush or power rush the quarterback. . .Twice, once in 1984 and again in 1987, recorded 4.5 sacks in a game, both vs. Raiders. . .One of game's premier pass rushers with 137.5 career sacks, which at time of retirement third all-time best. . .Recorded double-digit sacks eight times including streak of five consecutive years (1984-1988). . .Led NFC with team record 17.5 sacks, 1984. . .Following year, led NFL with 17 sacks as an integral part of Bears dominating defense. . .His three tackles, 1.5 sacks, one pass defensed and two forced fumbles earned him Super Bowl XX MVP honors following Bears lopsided 46-10 win over Patriots. . . Career statistics include eight interceptions (one touchdown), a safety, and fumble recovery for a touchdown. . .Named first- or second-team All-Pro four times, All-NFC five times. . . Selected to play in four Pro Bowls (1985, 1986, 1991, 1994). . .Born December 13, 1960 in Atlanta, Georgia.

Guard . . .6-3, 273. . .Pittsburgh. . .1981-1991 Washington Redskins. . .11 seasons, 140 games. . .Selected in third round (69th player overall) in 1981 NFL Draft. . .Originally pegged to play center, moved to left guard as rookie. . .Immediate starter on line that earned nickname "The Hogs". . .Teaming with tackle Joe Jacoby, formed perhaps most punishing side of an offensive line in football at the time. . .With Grimm's speed and strength, Redskins rode success of dominating running attack to victory in Super Bowl XVII in which John Riggins rushed for then-record 166 yards. . .During playoff run that year, team averaged 152 yards rushing. . .Following 1983 season, Grimm was selected to first of four straight Pro Bowls. . . Also marked start of four consecutive years (1983-1986) of All-Pro recognition. . . Also named All-NFC in each of those seasons. . .In 1987 moved to center and started five games before being sidelined until season finale with knee injury. . .Missed 11 games in 1988 with knee injury. . .Appeared in five NFC championship games and four Super Bowls including wins in Super Bowls XVII, XXII, XXVI. . .Elected to NFL's 1980s All-Decade Team. . .Born May 2, 1959 in Scottdale, Pennsylvania.

Punterů6-3, 195. . .Southern Mississippi. . .1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders. . .14 seasons, 207 games. . .All-America, nation's top collegiate punter, 1972. . .First punter ever to be selected in first round, Raiders 1973 (23rd player overall). . .Became impact player from very first game as a rookie. . .Averaged under 40 yards only one season in NFL career. . .Had best average (45.3 yards) as rookie. . .Led NFL in punting, 1974, 1975, 1977. . .Had only three of 1,049 punts blocked. . .Career average was 42.4 yards. . .Had 619 punts without a block, 1979-1986. . .Veteran of 22 postseason games, adding 111 punts for 42.4 average. . . All-Pro six straight seasons, 1973-1978. . .All-AFC seven times. . .Played in seven Pro Bowls, including six straight from 1974 to 1979. . .Played in seven AFC championship games, Super Bowls XI, XV, XVIII. . .Three-game totals: 14 punts, 41.9-yard average. . .Had 57 punts inside 20-yard line, 1984-1985. . .First punter to hit Louisiana Superdome scoreboard, 1977 Pro Bowl. . .Doubled as Raiders' emergency quarterback with strong accurate passing arm. . .Born December 22, 1949, in Swainsboro, Georgia.

Wide Receiver. . .6-3, 210. . .Syracuse. . .1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles. . .16 seasons, 224 games. . .Selected by Washington in first round (18th player overall) of 1980 NFL Draft. . .Prototype for today's bigger, stronger receivers. . .Caught 58 passes as a rookie and was unanimous All-Rookie choice. . .Had 50 or more receptions in a season nine times. . .Gained 1,000 or more receiving yards in a season five times. . .Set then-NFL records for catches in a season (106), most consecutive games with at least one reception (164), and career receptions (820). . .Finished career with 940 catches. . .A strong receiver, especially effective over the middle in traffic, made the "dodge pattern" his signature play. . .Had finest season in 1984, catching eight or more passes in six games, five games of 100-plus receiving yards, and in one game caught 10 passes for 200 yards. . .Named Redskins 1984 Most Valuable Player. . .First Redskin to produce three consecutive 1,000 receiving yard seasons. . .A three-time Pro Bowl selection, was All-Pro choice in 1984 and 1985. . .First- or second-team All-NFC three times. . .Born December 5, 1957 in White Plains, New York.

Commissioner. . .Georgetown, New York University. . .1989-2006 National Football League. . . During tenure, NFL has grown to unparalleled heights. . .By a wide margin, NFL with its competitive equity is considered nation's most popular sport. . .Committed to a "league think" philosophy, his leadership enabled NFL to address several key priorities. . .The league expanded to 32 teams. . .Nearly two decades of labor peace with the NFL Players Association. . .League supported some 20 new stadium construction projects. . . Established NFL as a global brand with operations in overseas markets. . .Was first league to operate on a weekly basis on two separate continents. . . Created a league-wide internet network and subscriber-based NFL TV Network. . .Secured largest TV contracts in entertainment history totaling some $25 billion. . .Before becoming league's CEO, represented NFL as attorney. . .Served in office of U.S. Secretary of Defense as policy analyst. . .Currently a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. . .Born November 24, 1940 in Jersey City, New Jersey.

02-04-2007, 04:14 PM
The HOF Committee probably consists of the same idiots who voted for the Superbowl Teams on America's Game.

I'd like to hear the reasoning for not voting in Paul Tagliabue. I believe he helped the expansion of NFL Europe not to mention growing revenue for the league with the DirecTV availability and the satellite radio package that's exclusive to Sirius Radio.
He picked up where Pete Rozelle left off and kept the ball rolling.

Ray Guy not getting in is total garbage.
He should do like Harry Carson did when he kept getting passed over and write to the HOF Committee and request that his name be permanently be removed from future HOF ballots.

02-04-2007, 05:33 PM

That link talks about the other players that got in; but how in the world does a Commissioner who followed in the footsteps of the great Pete Rozelle not get in on the first ballot in the wake of so much that's done for the league ????

That Puzzles me to. Tagliabue should get in NEXT YEAR!